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im currently looking at amps i could potentially sell my hot rod deluxe to buy, and this is... that. i imagine that sovtek and a 15" extension cab, or maybe 215, would be thunderous.

what do you guys think?

im replacing my hot rod deluxe eventually with another loud amp... i know ive been talking about 4w matamps and the like, but i need a stage amp no matter what, as brittany is looking at some pretty vicious boxes, bassmans and marshalls and whatnot.

what other amps are badass in the <500USD, ~50w range? it doesnt have to be a combo, but itd be nice as i probably wont be able to afford a cab right away after buying it.

I own a Sovtek mig100 and a Silverface bassman, both of which I got in the relative 400-550 mark. My 2x15 cab plus either of those heads is thunderous. Some have said that the sovtek is kinda like a cross between a JCM800 and a Bassman, I'm not gonna completely agree with that. I've been borrowing this JCM800 and it's a completely different amp than the sovtek, much more distortion rather than the mig100's crunch.

I don't think you'll be disappointed with a sovtek, but there is also the Peavey classic series that you may want to look into.

If you're looking for plexi/basseman type amps, Sovteks are definitely a good, cheaper alternative.
I've played a few Mig 50's that I absolutely adored but they are kind of hard to find, in good condition for under $600.

As a user, I highly recomend vintage Traynors.

The YBA line are basically 50W plexi/Bassman clones and can generally be had, in very good shape for around $500.
Sofar as I know, these only come in head form but a quick and dirty alternative would be the YGL Mark III (available both in head and combo form) that sound absolutely vicious, again anywhere around $500-$600 range, altough they are less bare boned, master volume, reverb equipped amps.

If you're looking for information on these, this is a great place to start: http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/~dace/vb/
Lots of information on the different models and circuit variations, some interesting info on popular mods and whatnot.
Most of the pricing information is a few years old and these things have recently started to skyrocket so don't pay any attention to it.

thanks for the info!


i will look into traynor, too.

the thing i like about sovtek right now is that they arent super expensive yet, but im betting they will get there. and they have a uniqueness, they arent just straight up copies of anything ive seen. aesthetically, i mean.

plus,

matt fuckin sweeney

I find they look alot like Hiwatts with a certain utilitarian Soviet gruff.

Seriously though, fuck all this shit, buy that cheap bassman off of craigslist,

my favorite local guitarist (for just jams/fun stuff,,,not as far as songwriting/material goes) has tons of awesome vintage gear, guitars, etc....

He gigs with a Sovtek Mig 50 (I believe) and a fucking squire strat that he re-did the electronics.. And he is fucking amazing guitar player.. He si trying to sell me one of his 3 Tom Anderson strats right now...

laterallateral wrote:I find they look alot like Hiwatts with a certain utilitarian Soviet gruff.

yeah, troo. they do have a hiwatt thing going.

its brittany really that is looking at the bassman. she has money like, right now. ha.

I suggest you tell her to look with her wallet.

laterallateral wrote:I suggest you tell her to look with her wallet.

i am/have! i hope its not gone by tomorrow afternoon!

so, that known, i am looking for a relatively cheap amp that will compete with her bassman. sovtek.


maybe i should go for a mig 50. they can be had on ebay all the time, i can wait out a deal.

umm, sloan is like 4 poasts behind. but he's SOO cute!

COUGAR 1000 is driven by SOVTEK TUBZ

william wrote:umm, sloan is like 4 poasts behind. but he's SOO cute!

i still agree with teh bassmans

Truth. Last person I remember who had a problem with bassmen was some douche triple rectum fire dude.
He kept arguing that they sounded "stale". I was like: OMG, shut yer face your rig is the very definition of stale!

right, bassmans rule and such. great for HER...

i can't get one so im looking at sovteks. maybe ill just get her drunk and when shes passed out move the bassman into the other room and claim it was stolen, and everytime she comes in that room, ill throw a blanket over it, and ill buy HER a sovtek to make her feel better about the whole thing.

Don't get the wrong idea, The mig-50's that I tried were godamned orgasmic. A trully overrated amp.
As for the Traynors, well... I own one and I would straight up cut a ng, if he tried to take it from me.

I pushed for that bassman because it's an amazing deal and yes, they ARE amazing amps but the Sovtek and Traynors,
in my opinion, are equally awesome, in ther own right.

laterallateral wrote:Don't get the wrong idea, The mig-50's that I tried were godamned orgasmic. A trully overrated amp.
As for the Traynors, well... I own one and I would straight up cut a ng, if he tried to take it from me.

I pushed for that bassman because it's an amazing deal and yes, they ARE amazing amps but the Sovtek and Traynors,
in my opinion, are equally awesome, in ther own right.

im assuming you mean underrated. right?

im diggin em, but we'll see when i have the cash. if i could find one in town i could pretty much buy it by selling my HRD, but itd be a while before i had some CONEZ to make SONDZ.

haha yeah, my brain took a dump. I totally meant underrated.