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Need a cab
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:03 pm
by MrJulius
Ok, I picked up a Mesa LoneStar head
Yeah... Clean headroom out the wazoo...
So yeah, now I'm looking for a cab to match, I have very little cab experience, so yeah, any recommendations (it has 4/8ohm jacks)
This be what is played through it.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_so ... ID=7191551
any ideas?
Budget of about 600-800, I will be more than happy to go under that, but thats what I am floating around.
Would Orange be a decent idea?
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:09 pm
by Sloan
Buy a used MESA STANDARD cab.
I've done a lot of cab research and it's by far the hugest sounding one.
It's loaded with Vintage 30's and is actually oversized. The mesa stiletto/traditonal is a regular sized cab.
MESA STANDARD cabs seem to have the smoothest sound compared to anything else I've heard clips of.
Orange cabinets are well built and heavy, but have way more pronounced midrange.
Marshall cabs with v30's are brighter with more mids as well.
I think Avatar's cabs are kinda like the Marshall cabs, they have new ones that look like Orange though.
Vader cabs seem to be a little more bright, they use Eminense legends. These would be great for touring, they're coated in that truck bedliner stuff.
KRANK cabs - i don't know much about them, but i'm guessing there's not much to write about since most people with KRANKs end up wanting a MESA STANDARD.
*edited y'all
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:12 pm
by Sloan
Dammit dude, are you talking about a 2x12 for CLEAN TONES?
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:16 pm
by kim
mmmm more pronounced midrange *drool*
check some megastores, take the top with you and ask if you can play through the cabs then buy the favourite secondhand but if you're going for a shot in the dark sloan seems to know his mesas =)
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:19 pm
by MaMo
Sloan wrote:Buy a used MESA TRADITIONAL cab.
I've done a lot of cab research and it's by far the hugest sounding one.
It's loaded with Vintage 30's and is actually oversized. The mesa standard is a regular sized cab.
MESA TRADITIONAL cabs seem to have the smoothest sound compared to anything else I've heard clips of.
Orange cabinets are well built and heavy, but have way more pronounced midrange.
Marshall cabs with v30's are brighter with more mids as well.
I think Avatar's cabs are kinda like the Marshall cabs, they have new ones that look like Orange though.
Vader cabs seem to be a little more bright, they use Eminense legends. These would be great for touring, they're coated in that truck bedliner stuff.
KRANK cabs - i don't know much about them, but i'm guessing there's not much to write about since most people with KRANKs end up wanting a MESA TRAD.
Those are the stiletto models, right?
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:05 am
by Sloan
MaMo wrote:Sloan wrote:Buy a used MESA STANDARD cab.
I've done a lot of cab research and it's by far the hugest sounding one.
It's loaded with Vintage 30's and is actually oversized. The mesa stiletto/traditional is a regular sized cab.
MESA STANDARD cabs seem to have the smoothest sound compared to anything else I've heard clips of.
Orange cabinets are well built and heavy, but have way more pronounced midrange.
Marshall cabs with v30's are brighter with more mids as well.
I think Avatar's cabs are kinda like the Marshall cabs, they have new ones that look like Orange though.
Vader cabs seem to be a little more bright, they use Eminense legends. These would be great for touring, they're coated in that truck bedliner stuff.
KRANK cabs - i don't know much about them, but i'm guessing there's not much to write about since most people with KRANKs end up wanting a MESA STANDARD.
Those are the stiletto models, right?
Yeah, from what I can tell they're the same.
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:07 am
by Sloan
FUCK I GOT IT BACKWARDS.
The MESA STANDARD is the oversized one.
editing posts.
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:31 am
by SAVEStheDAY
Sloan wrote:Buy a used MESA STANDARD cab.
If you're looking for a 4x12 I definately agree. I've used the Marshall standard 1960A and B (Still own a 1960B) and never got the sound I was looking for out of them. The Mesa gets that great Vintage 30 tone and makes the Marshalls seem like toys. It's taller, a little longer, and weighs a TON! Even the casters are bigger! I should take some pictures... Anyway, the Mesa should definately be on your short list of cabs to check out.
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:54 am
by MrJulius
Cool deal guys, thanks a lot, y'all are best.
I'll check out the Standard along with some others.
Thanks
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:06 pm
by MrJulius
Also one other question,
I'm going to build a 1x12 or a 2x12 open back for when I am playing with my church band. I've never built a cab before but I have been reading a bunch of stuff on construction and I am fairly good with wood.
One thing I can't find is how speaker watts is related to output watts of my amp.
I've read somewhere that a 50 watt amp can actually be putting out 60/70 watts at peak?
So what do I need to do speaker wise then for my Mesa?
Granted this thing wont make it past half master power playing the church gigs (especially with an open back) what do I need?
Or if anyone has a website for me (I've been searching google to no avail) I'd be more than happy to sift through the information.
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:46 pm
by Sloan
It looks like the LONESTAR has switchable wattage up to 100w. I'm pretty sure you would be safe with a 60/70w speaker as long as you don't crank it up in 100w mode.