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Tunerss

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:28 am
by avntzen
Anyone got suggestions for a good cheap affordable tuner? No need for flashy strobes, or chromatic tuning, and invincibility (im very careful with pedals, and i dont move them around often).

However i do like one that has an input and output so it can be used in an effects chain. No footswitch needed (im perefectly fine with reaching down and tuning) and no sound cutoff needed (where i play, no gives a damn when you're tuning).

Overall something cheap and simple. However i DO like a pedal that has a mic because id like to tune my Violin also.

I have my eye on the Korg CA-40. But the only thing stopping me is that the bypass might not be perfect (if anyone owns one of these, tell me how good the Bypass is). So yeah a good Bypass would be great as well.

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:56 am
by suede
I use the fender pedal...It does the job...like this only red...

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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:13 am
by avj
I have an older version of the Sabine STX-1100. The one I have is the ST-1500, which had features the old ST-1000 didn't have, but they've since combined them all into the STX-1100. This unit does have a microphone; I find it handy to be able to hum a note into to find its pitch or use it on my acoustic guitar.

I've had mine for about fifteen years now and it still works perfectly. It has survived way too many drops from hand to ground. The battery lasts an unbelievably long time. I've found it to be quite accurate, and I miss having it when not at home. I've begun using a TU-2 because I found a beat-up used one for cheap and I like the silent tuning capability. Once I build a pedal board and settle on a layout, I will go back to using the Sabine.

I have absolutely no idea why no one speaks of Sabine anymore. These things were absolutely top-of-the-line in the early '90s and have possibly become ignored because there's not a new model every year in a new color with arbitrary new features and a $10 price increase. This is essentially the same tuner I purchased in 1994, and it's around $30 cheaper. I don't know of many other products in this industry that have remained unchanged for this long and have actually become less expensive to buy new.

You could always go the route of using something like an Ernie Ball volume pedal or something else with a Tuner Out so you don't have to tune out loud.

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:04 pm
by Bacchus
I got the Behringer TU -300. It makes it easier for me to tune my guitar, which is why I bought it.

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:05 pm
by timhulio
I got this one. I lurve it. Not too cheap though.

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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:08 pm
by Mike
DT-10 or fuck off and die.

That's how I feel about it. Either you want a tuner or you don't. And if you want a tuner then you want the DT-10.

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:09 pm
by Sloan
suede wrote:I use the fender pedal...It does the job...like this only red...

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WERD,

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:14 pm
by Haze
30 us bones
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but i would say pitchblack

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:31 pm
by endsjustifymeans
Sloan wrote:
suede wrote:I use the fender pedal...It does the job...like this only red...

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WERD,
+1

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:33 pm
by euan
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Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:35 pm
by Bacchus
Fancy.

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:40 pm
by avntzen
Deciding factors:

-Can the fender tuner take this contact mic so i could tune my violin?

-Does the Sabine Tuner have True Bypass?

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:55 pm
by avj
avntzen wrote:Deciding factors:

-Can the fender tuner take this contact mic so i could tune my violin?

-Does the Sabine Tuner have True Bypass?
The Sabine passes the signal through regardless of whether or not there's even a battery in the unit (I just verified this), so it's definitely not buffered bypass. I suppose this means, by definition, that it's true or direct bypass.

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:06 pm
by Mike
avj wrote:
avntzen wrote:Deciding factors:

-Can the fender tuner take this contact mic so i could tune my violin?

-Does the Sabine Tuner have True Bypass?
The Sabine passes the signal through regardless of whether or not there's even a battery in the unit (I just verified this), so it's definitely not buffered bypass. I suppose this means, by definition, that it's true or direct bypass.
Afraid not. You can use output only DPDT switching and still have this effect.

Not that buffered bypass is bad or anything, True Bypass and Buffered Bypass both have their place. Personally I think the Korg Buffer sounds great and I like having it in my signal chain, which also has a Klon buffer in it with my other pedals all being True Bypass.

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:37 pm
by avj
Mike wrote:
avj wrote:
avntzen wrote:Deciding factors:

-Can the fender tuner take this contact mic so i could tune my violin?

-Does the Sabine Tuner have True Bypass?
The Sabine passes the signal through regardless of whether or not there's even a battery in the unit (I just verified this), so it's definitely not buffered bypass. I suppose this means, by definition, that it's true or direct bypass.
Afraid not. You can use output only DPDT switching and still have this effect.

Not that buffered bypass is bad or anything, True Bypass and Buffered Bypass both have their place. Personally I think the Korg Buffer sounds great and I like having it in my signal chain, which also has a Klon buffer in it with my other pedals all being True Bypass.
I stand corrected -- I hadn't thought of that. It doesn't have a hard-throw switch of any kind, so I guess it can't really be true bypass. Thanks Mike.

Relevant to the topic, I just came across a couple of interesting bits of research on tuners and true bypass (lank 1, lank 2) that seem to have some good insight on some popular tuners.

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:56 pm
by mellowlogic
euan your tuner looks like the inside of a mercedes or something, mmmm fake luxury wood hehe

Re: Tunerss

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:46 am
by Doog
avntzen wrote:However i DO like a pedal that has a mic because id like to tune my Violin also.
Surely a pedal's very floor-based nature means a built-in mic is a fairly daft idea? Unless you fancy lying down to tune your violin..

Re: Tunerss

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:31 pm
by avntzen
Doog wrote:
avntzen wrote:However i DO like a pedal that has a mic because id like to tune my Violin also.
Surely a pedal's very floor-based nature means a built-in mic is a fairly daft idea? Unless you fancy lying down to tune your violin..
Pedal for guitar setup. Violin for studio sessions mostly. Unhooking the pedal takes like, what, three seconds? I dont wanna buy multiple tuners for two separate instruments.

Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:34 pm
by Mike
avj wrote:
Mike wrote:
avj wrote: The Sabine passes the signal through regardless of whether or not there's even a battery in the unit (I just verified this), so it's definitely not buffered bypass. I suppose this means, by definition, that it's true or direct bypass.
Afraid not. You can use output only DPDT switching and still have this effect.

Not that buffered bypass is bad or anything, True Bypass and Buffered Bypass both have their place. Personally I think the Korg Buffer sounds great and I like having it in my signal chain, which also has a Klon buffer in it with my other pedals all being True Bypass.
I stand corrected -- I hadn't thought of that. It doesn't have a hard-throw switch of any kind, so I guess it can't really be true bypass. Thanks Mike.

Relevant to the topic, I just came across a couple of interesting bits of research on tuners and true bypass (lank 1, lank 2) that seem to have some good insight on some popular tuners.
Very cool links, thanksfor those. INteresting reading.