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Which goes first in effects chain?
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:00 pm
by westtexasred
I bought a One-Spot power supply so that I could make a little pedalboard .Is the the right order to put them in them?
Guitar > Compressor>Reverb>Distortion(1)>Distortion(2)>amp
or would you put the compressor after the reverb?
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:02 pm
by James
It depends on which you plan on using at the same time. If you only ever have the reverb on without the distortion, its position only matters relative to the compressor.
Distortions compress your signal but in a different way to a dynamic compressor, so you should try experimenting with having it before or after but it depends a lot on how much gain you use.
I would go for something along the lines of -
Dist 1 > Comp > Dist 2 > Reverb
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:08 pm
by Haze
reverb is usually last
because it models natural reverberation in the environment
probably doesn't make sense
either way, good to see another rv7 player
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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:15 pm
by westtexasred
Haze wrote:reverb is usually last
because it models natural reverberation in the environment
probably doesn't make sense
either way, good to see another rv7 player
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Ok thanks guys.
Yeah The HardWire RV makes my lttle Vibro Champ Sound huge!
Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:18 pm
by timhulio
I'd have thought:
Dist
Comp
Reverb/Delay
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:03 am
by ultratwin
I'd most always go like this:
Comp -> Dist1 -> Dist2 -> Verb
Some TDPRI guys have talked about comp at the end of the chain, but I like the comp coloration going on to my clean signal, rather than having my multi-pedal high gain turd distortion mess hitting the compressor so hard it just feels like an anti-dynamic limiter of sorts. In addition, the option of a clean boost with the comp kicked in to drive the front end of the next drive pedal in line can be useful to some. Orange Squeezer-type comps practically do this one automatically, and they (OS-type comps in particular) can sound great to keep the beef up, adding mid-lo girth and stuff to one's overdrive while providing decent compression when needed.
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:55 am
by NBarnes21
ultratwin wrote:I'd most always go like this:
Comp -> Dist1 -> Dist2 -> Verb
Some TDPRI guys have talked about comp at the end of the chain, but I like the comp coloration going on to my clean signal, rather than having my multi-pedal high gain turd distortion mess hitting the compressor so hard it just feels like an anti-dynamic limiter of sorts. In addition, the option of a clean boost with the comp kicked in to drive the front end of the next drive pedal in line can be useful to some. Orange Squeezer-type comps practically do this one automatically, and they (OS-type comps in particular) can sound great to keep the beef up, adding mid-lo girth and stuff to one's overdrive while providing decent compression when needed.
agreed on all accounts
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:02 am
by ekwatts
I've never used a compressor. It's one of those "effects" I can't be arsed messing with and don't think I need it. It's in the same category as reverb for me. Nice if I have them, not arsed if I don't. Chorus used to be in that category, but I actually like using a little of that now.
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:25 am
by the isaac eaton
ekwatts wrote:I've never used a compressor. It's one of those "effects" I can't be arsed messing with and don't think I need it. It's in the same category as reverb for me. Nice if I have them, not arsed if I don't. Chorus used to be in that category, but I actually like using a little of that now.
Im not one for compressors, but i think that reverb is a necessity, it brings so much life into your clean tones, just a little reverb makes everything sound so much more alive. I just use the reverb on my cyber twin, because I can set it how ever i want so it sounds pretty good. Reverb is a good thing! If i had an amp without reverb i would buy a reverb pedal and have it on at all times.
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:09 am
by timhulio
ultratwin wrote:I'd most always go like this:
Comp -> Dist1 -> Dist2 -> Verb
Some TDPRI guys have talked about comp at the end of the chain, but I like the comp coloration going on to my clean signal, rather than having my multi-pedal high gain turd distortion mess hitting the compressor so hard it just feels like an anti-dynamic limiter of sorts. In addition, the option of a clean boost with the comp kicked in to drive the front end of the next drive pedal in line can be useful to some. Orange Squeezer-type comps practically do this one automatically, and they (OS-type comps in particular) can sound great to keep the beef up, adding mid-lo girth and stuff to one's overdrive while providing decent compression when needed.
See where you're coming from here, but I quite like that Husker Du, compressed distortion sound- the compressor tightens-up the fuzz/squall.
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:15 am
by Doog
ultratwin wrote:I'd most always go like this:
Comp -> Dist1 -> Dist2 -> Verb
Dittoz.
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:33 am
by chrisplayer7
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:15 am Post subject:
ultratwin wrote:
I'd most always go like this:
Comp -> Dist1 -> Dist2 -> Verb
Dittoz.
+1
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:34 am
by Doog
But that's very much standard usage- fun can be had putting the comp after the 'verb, distortion after the verb..
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:23 am
by Nick
chrisplayer7 wrote:
PostPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:15 am Post subject:
ultratwin wrote:
I'd most always go like this:
Comp -> Dist1 -> Dist2 -> Verb
Dittoz.
+1
Late to the punch on this, but that is the correct order of things.
http://www.bossus.com/boss_users_group/ ... ticleId=39
Of course you can experiment endlessly with different orders if you want to play around and get unique effects.