Picking up a '72 Tele Deluxe Today - Caps & Pups

Chicago Mike · Post by **Chicago Mike** » Tue May 05, 2009 8:24 pm

I'm picking up a beat '72 Tele Deluxe today and was curious if anyone has had changed out their caps or pickups. I've read where people have swaped tvalues but haven't figured out the general rule of thumb.

Does anyone have a general explination of cap values and their desired effect?

**Not sure if this is the prorper area for this topic. **

Mages · Post by **Mages** » Tue May 05, 2009 10:18 pm

what people usually change is the pots. mike swears by the 1megs.

Will · Post by **Will** » Tue May 05, 2009 11:10 pm

Higher value caps roll off more treble, lower values roll off less. So if it's too bright, you could increase the value of the cap or vice-versa.

Higher value pots prevent more signal from reaching ground, so the sound is brighter and louder.

Chicago Mike · Post by **Chicago Mike** » Tue May 05, 2009 11:39 pm

Awesome, thanks!

I'm gonna order some 1meg pots from Torres and I've got to address some noise issue with it too. Guessing it might be grounding or something with the input jack.

jcyphe · Post by **jcyphe** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:22 am

What pickups could you change them with anyways besides Vintage ones?

Please don't go and drop a bunch of money on cuntfire Offset mojo arrows.

DGNR8 · Post by **DGNR8** » Wed May 06, 2009 1:03 am

LOL WUT?

Chicago Mike · Post by **Chicago Mike** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:26 pm

I don't know, just thought there might be some alternatives out there. Definitely not originals!

Sublimedo · Post by **Sublimedo** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:38 pm

stock deluxe pups are great already! Don't change em.

In fact, I wish I could change all of my humbuckers to deluxe pups.

Post by **Mike** » Wed May 06, 2009 12:45 pm

Agreed. Fine pickups, if you find them dark then up the pots. As always it's a good idea to suck it and see and see whether it works for you before pulling out the soldering iron.

Chicago Mike · Post by **Chicago Mike** » Wed May 06, 2009 1:29 pm

I actually do like the pickups but they're both a bit too muddy (espically the neck). They sounded really good but just not enough clairty.

I'm going to try changing out the Pots, but I have a question: Do you need to switch out all the pots to 1met or just the volume knobs?

Post by **Mike** » Wed May 06, 2009 1:34 pm

All will give you the most pronouced effect but volume only will still change things.

Chicago Mike · Post by **Chicago Mike** » Wed May 06, 2009 1:39 pm

Right on, thanks a lot. It's a pretty solid guitar, it's gonna take some time getting used the chunky neck but I like it.

Chicago Mike · Post by **Chicago Mike** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:12 pm

Does changing the caps have an affect on sounds/tone?

Reece · Post by **Reece** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:18 pm

mike, you get your pots from smallbear do you not? ima change the pots in the jazzy to 1M at some point rather than try replacing the pups.

avj · Post by **avj** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:23 pm

Just to whip out my experience here, I replaced all the stock pots with 500k after finding the stock 250k a bit dark and flabby and 1M a little bright. There are two .022uF caps on the tone pots, but I left those as-is.

Post by **Mike** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:25 pm

Reece wrote:mike, you get your pots from smallbear do you not? ima change the pots in the jazzy to 1M at some point rather than try replacing the pups.

SmallBear or Banzaieffects.de. Or Musikding.

Reminds me, I'm off to the warehouse to get some parts.

Chicago Mike · Post by **Chicago Mike** » Wed May 06, 2009 2:37 pm

avj wrote:Just to whip out my experience here, I replaced all the stock pots with 500k after finding the stock 250k a bit dark and flabby and 1M a little bright. There are two .022uF caps on the tone pots, but I left those as-is.

Yeah, this might be my path as well but I want to try the 1meg first and fall back to the 500 if needed.

Thanks for the input.

Richard · Post by **Richard** » Wed May 06, 2009 5:46 pm

Chicago Mike · Post by **Chicago Mike** » Wed May 06, 2009 5:50 pm

I'll get some up this week after practice.

Mages · Post by **Mages** » Thu May 07, 2009 12:49 am

Chicago Mike wrote:Does changing the caps have an affect on sounds/tone?

great article about caps and how they can effect the tone