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one channel amp like jcm800 question

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:25 pm
by matthoj
i have had a jcm800 marshall head forever. one channel, and i have used the same settings since i asked bill barbot from jawbox advice on teles with humbuckers through marshalls. i have it distorted all of the time. i have used volume pedals mostly to back off the distorted tone for clean guitar and this worked great. for a long time i was using ernie ball volume pedals, but always digging around for that perfect "clean zone". fred mascherino (ex-breaking pangea, taking back sunday, now the color fred) told me the key was getting a boss volume pedal with a minimum volume knob and that was the key. that worked great.

after reading all that bullshit, my real question is...

is there a pedal that could cut your guitar volume like that where i could set it and have a footswitch versus having to sweep a volume pedal?

Re: one channel amp like jcm800 question

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:31 pm
by dots
matthoj wrote:i have had a jcm800 marshall head forever. one channel, and i have used the same settings since i asked bill barbot from jawbox advice on teles with humbuckers through marshalls. i have it distorted all of the time. i have used volume pedals mostly to back off the distorted tone for clean guitar and this worked great. for a long time i was using ernie ball volume pedals, but always digging around for that perfect "clean zone". fred mascherino (ex-breaking pangea, taking back sunday, now the color fred) told me the key was getting a boss volume pedal with a minimum volume knob and that was the key. that worked great.

after reading all that bullshit, my real question is...

is there a pedal that could cut your guitar volume like that where i could set it and have a footswitch versus having to sweep a volume pedal?
it's called the salt-booster. i've used it with great results for exactly what you're talking about: crank the overdrive on the amp, set the volume on the pedal to as low as you want it, kick it on, and voila! lower output = clean tone.

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:40 pm
by James
There are a lot of pedals that could do this for you. Any pedal with a 'level' control that allows you to input an otherwise untouched signal (ie. an overdrive pedal with the overdrive pot all the way down that still gives output) will do the job. I think all of those pedals will change the sound a little, but you might find that's something you don't dislike.

You could also build a pedal that has just a passive volume pot like you have on your guitar (and possibly volume pedal). It would be no more difficult than wiring a guitar other than the drilling the case part.

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:54 pm
by dots
James wrote:There are a lot of pedals that could do this for you. Any pedal with a 'level' control that allows you to input an otherwise untouched signal (ie. an overdrive pedal with the overdrive pot all the way down that still gives output) will do the job. I think all of those pedals will change the sound a little, but you might find that's something you don't dislike.

You could also build a pedal that has just a passive volume pot like you have on your guitar (and possibly volume pedal). It would be no more difficult than wiring a guitar other than the drilling the case part.
very true. i'm just trying to give some love to my circuit bending buddy, mike. the salt-booster is so effective at doing EXACTLY what this guy is after that the pedal has become a necessity whenever i take my pro jr anywhere. i consider a part of the amp itself, not an accessory.

but, yes, there are many options that can do this.



EDIT: and, no, i don't think mike's just a circuit bender. dude went to school and shit; he's a WHIZ KID.

Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2009 11:00 pm
by matthoj
thanks a lot, i'm gonna check out the salt!!!

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:07 am
by dub
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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 1:14 am
by matthoj
thanks for the help, the signal pad is actually what im looking for!!! that salt-booster is hot, too, i'm gonna have to pick one up...

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:50 am
by Mike
Yup the signal pad will do what you're after and if you're in the States it's dirt cheap. I had the idea for a completely passive stompbox "volume-roll-off-in-a-box" idea ages ago, unfortunately EHX beat me to it, but the Saltbooster (And most simple boosters) will do what you want also.

Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:13 am
by ultratwin
MY DWARFCRAFT PLANE TICKET does quiet boost, exactly as advertised. :P

Aen shows the real proof at 2:13

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Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 3:00 pm
by dots
ultratwin wrote:MY DWARFCRAFT PLANE TICKET does quiet boost, exactly as advertised. :P
aye. i have its predecessor (the fat booster), and it also does swimmingly at this job. salt booster gets a slight edge in this contest because i like the way it breaks up when you do use it as a true boost. . . and it gets to be a full on overdrive without much encouragement. great little box.