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My Jag with newly fitted buzz stop...

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:16 pm
by othomas2
Spent quite a while trying to get totally satisfied with my setup and I think it's pretty much there. I've just joined a functions band so this has prompted me into rectifying a few things I have been unhappy with... Recent mods have included fitting a jb jr in the bridge and a buzz stop which I installed this morning... & of course a nice suede strap and coily cable which surely enhances the tone :lol:

I don't think the mods take too much away from the aesthetics & they certainly help me achieve the feel and sounds that I've been yearning for. The idea was to try and have one guitar for all situations type thing, and I think this is versatile enough to do that now, without spending mega £'s... Having a setup which is as compact and easy to transport as possible is my main aim.

Also recently become pretty content with my effects setup too which I've also photograhed... the Dano I find totally enchanting. The amp I still hold a question mark over but untill I'm able to get it up to gigging volumes again I'm holding back judgement. Will do a proper demo soon & fire it on you tube.

Anyways, I'm sure you're fed up with seeing this guitar but I've been having a lazy saturday and fancied posting some new pics.

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Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:26 pm
by lancer88
to be quite honest, this is one of the sexiest jags i've ever seen, and i never get tired of seein pics of it :P

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:16 pm
by Fran
Nice pics Owen. On this rare occasion the missing 'Claws' does not offend my eye. 8)

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:40 pm
by Dice
That is a great looking guitar! Its nice to see that people here don't feel the need to give you shit about the buzzstop - I have one on my '65 and would never go without it. Folks on other forums always dump on people who use them. :roll: Again, that is a real looker!

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:46 pm
by robroe
looks good. more chrome the better

yes!

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2009 12:33 am
by lancer88
robroe wrote:looks good. more chrome the better

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 3:57 pm
by jamieb
Looks good.

Do you find the buzz stop has made a noticeable difference? I've oft considered fitting one to mine (it's a Japanese jag and therefore would theoretically benefit from the increased break angle).

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:13 pm
by Fran
Dice wrote:That is a great looking guitar! Its nice to see that people here don't feel the need to give you shit about the buzzstop - I have one on my '65 and would never go without it. Folks on other forums always dump on people who use them. :roll:
Oh, the same idiots that say you MUST use heavy gauge strings? Ignore them.

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:23 pm
by Mike
I think it looks good, and a buzz stop has never offended me in terms of looks, it's utilitarian and there is beauty in that.

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:24 pm
by dots
do buzz stops help w/ sustain?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:36 pm
by Mike
I little bit I would imagine, increased break angle and all that.

I can't imagine needing one on my CP, the thing rings out for ages. It has those "behind the bridge" harmonics you can hear with heavy gain but personally I think that's just what a Jag sounds like. I'm in no hurry to "fix" it.

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:38 pm
by Gavin
I have always hated buzzstops. They look shit and there's no need.

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 4:40 pm
by matthoj
what does the buzz stop do for the chimey sounds that make jaguars so fun to play? does it give you different pitches than what was there before?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:17 pm
by jamieb
Mike wrote:I little bit I would imagine, increased break angle and all that.

I can't imagine needing one on my CP, the thing rings out for ages. It has those "behind the bridge" harmonics you can hear with heavy gain but personally I think that's just what a Jag sounds like. I'm in no hurry to "fix" it.
Didn't they move the trem closer to the bridge on the CP though, thereby increasing the break angle in a similar way to that of a buzz stop? Or do I have that wrong?

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:21 pm
by jamieb
Fran wrote:
Dice wrote:That is a great looking guitar! Its nice to see that people here don't feel the need to give you shit about the buzzstop - I have one on my '65 and would never go without it. Folks on other forums always dump on people who use them. :roll:
Oh, the same idiots that say you MUST use heavy gauge strings? Ignore them.
I remember I asked on Offset once if anyone had any (good or bad) experiences of fitting an additional string tree to the Jag, another idea for eliminating string buzz on the G.

Jesus, you'd think I'd asked if I could fit a fucking tampon holder to it or something, they went mental.

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:22 pm
by endsjustifymeans
jamieb wrote:
Fran wrote:
Dice wrote:That is a great looking guitar! Its nice to see that people here don't feel the need to give you shit about the buzzstop - I have one on my '65 and would never go without it. Folks on other forums always dump on people who use them. :roll:
Oh, the same idiots that say you MUST use heavy gauge strings? Ignore them.
I remember I asked on Offset once if anyone had any (good or bad) experiences of fitting an additional string tree to the Jag, another idea for eliminating string buzz on the G.

Jesus, you'd think I'd asked if I could fit a fucking tampon holder to it or something, they went mental.
They must have been on their period correctness.

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:53 pm
by Jelloman
Beautiful jag man. Glad your happy with your setup.

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:53 pm
by dots
Gavin wrote:I have always hated buzzstops. They look shit and there's no need.
i wouldn't say i hate them per se, but i agree the need is pretty dubious as far as i'm concerned. i don't have problems with buzz or sustain.

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 6:30 pm
by BobArsecake
dots wrote:
Gavin wrote:I have always hated buzzstops. They look shit and there's no need.
i wouldn't say i hate them per se, but i agree the need is pretty dubious as far as i'm concerned. i don't have problems with buzz or sustain.
+1, just seem pointless to me, unless you're tuning way down p'raps.

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2009 8:02 pm
by othomas2
This is the second time I've bought a buzz stop & within a day of it being on there... I've removed it. :lol:

I don't feel it was really any better or worse.

Initially, the main reason for using it was to stop the strings popping off, but seeing as I've modded my bridge since and deepened the grooves and shimmed the saddles, this hasn't been the reason of installing it on this recent trial. I found it stopped the slightly buzzy bridge from buzzing, which didn't really bother me... it helped sustain to a varying degree but nothing spectacular. It did feel slightly more solid and trustworthy though... probably a slight confidence boost in a live situation. It increased the tension of the strings... which wasn't a plus for me after moving back to 11s from 10s. A little too much tension now !! It lacked somethin' that appealed to me previously... a jb & buzz stop in one go was just one step too far from the true characteristics of the jag. I think I've come to the assumption that part of the appeal is the buzzing & it's percussiveness, it's mellow dramatic nature. Having said that I've also found that once a jag has been left to settle over time it's happy no matter what, it'll a great player and will stay true to you for life !! The benefits of a buzz stop aren't huge, but I'll still be keeping it in case I feel the urge to put it back on. At the moment my jag feels unsettled & abused... in a few days I think it'll be back to it old self again.