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Vista Jagmaster Colors and Pickguards

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:42 pm
by DPhil
I have a seafoam green (or possibly called sonic blue) Vista Jagmaster, made in 1997. It has a tortoiseshell guard. Does anyone know if this is the color guard that would have come stock on this guitar? The knobs are white.

Also, is there a color guide for Vista Jagmasters posted somewhere?

I tried finding a parchment or white guard for this guitar but so far no luck.

Thanks!

Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:59 pm
by hotrodperlmutter
EXCALIBUR!!!

that is a factory color for the second run. nice find.

from memory:

96 - Sunburst with tort, maybe more.
97 - Sunburst with tort(?), scumbag sparkle silver with black, sonic blue with tort, black maybe, white with tort
up and on - sunburst with shit tort, black with white pg

welcome.

you'll need to contact jeannie pickguards on ebay (guy's a twat, look out) or http://www.terrapinguitars.com/

good luck and poast pics.

inb4robroe

EDIT: also robroe will also say go here: http://www.pickguardheaven.com/

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:19 am
by DPhil
Cool - I can deal with an Excalibur. Got it for $320 at a second hand instrument store in Maryland about a year ago. I may be a relative beginner, but I know when a guitar feels good in my hands.

I bounced around looking at posts on these guitars and it does look like my pick guard is original. Thanks for tips on pick guard sites.

I will post photos soon.

BTW - Original pickups sound really good on my instructor's '72 Twin Reverb - almost makes him want to get one.

D

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:42 am
by hotrodperlmutter
these guitars are bad ass. i have a first run vista sunburst and i love it.

all that's important is that it feels good in your paws. stick with it, and you shall go far.

Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:58 am
by James
First run, second run? If they did a year with just sunburst then introduced more colours, isn't that just introducing more colours?

That's worse than 're-issue' jag-stangs.

Best way to post photos?

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:02 am
by DPhil
Sorry, I was traveling for a while - now back. I have a couple of photos to post. However, it appears you can't do it direct per the site FAQs... Does the uploader on this site let you set up a separate address on the web to enable linking to photos?

Thanks for any tips!
DP

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:10 am
by jcyphe
hotrodperlmutter wrote:
96 - Sunburst with tort, maybe more.
97 - Sunburst with tort(?), scumbag sparkle silver with black, sonic blue with tort, black maybe, white with tort
up and on - sunburst with shit tort, black with white pg
There was no silver sparkle in the Vista series Jagmaster or in 1997 for that matter. You might be thinking of the Squier Super Sonic. Black was a color it came with tort. There was a red color also, I think it was CAR. White, Sunburst, and a light blue were the other colors.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:15 am
by robert(original)
i would love to get a pg from this era and make some rep guards for it. but they seem to be so rare these days.
just cruise ebay and score a nice mint guard!

Re: Best way to post photos?

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:25 am
by jcyphe
DPhil wrote:Sorry, I was traveling for a while - now back. I have a couple of photos to post. However, it appears you can't do it direct per the site FAQs... Does the uploader on this site let you set up a separate address on the web to enable linking to photos?

Thanks for any tips!
DP
You can upload a photo on the uploader or use your own hosted photos with the image tags.

It's the icon that says image in the posting control panel.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:20 am
by hotrodperlmutter
James wrote:First run, second run? If they did a year with just sunburst then introduced more colours, isn't that just introducing more colours?

That's worse than 're-issue' jag-stangs.
i beg to differ.

while jcyphe is right (scumbag silver came out in 02, i believe), the ones made in '96 had bottom truss rod access, and the 97's had bullet style truss rods and different colors.

a different neck sounds a bit like a different run to me.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:36 am
by laterallateral
I'm not 100% sure about this but I think the headstock shape between the 96 and 96+ was a little bit different, too... more CBSy.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:51 am
by Thomas
robert(original) wrote:i would love to get a pg from this era and make some rep guards for it. but they seem to be so rare these days.
just cruise ebay and score a nice mint guard!
I sent one to a US boardie when I first joined here. The info should be in the classified section. As far as I can remember the guard ended up not being what he wanted so who knows what hapened to it.

*EDIT* It was skip hat I gave it too. I told him it'd only fit a Vista and he said that was fine. Turned out he didn't have a Vista. Anyhoo that should be around somewhere. I'll ask him if he still has it and get him to send it on if he stll has it.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:31 pm
by jcyphe
hotrodperlmutter wrote:
while jcyphe is right (scumbag silver came out in 02, i believe), the ones made in '96 had bottom truss rod access, and the 97's had bullet style truss rods and different colors.
I'm not sure that is totally right. I've seen color models with both styles of neck access. You are right that they did switch at some point but I have seen blue ones with both the bullet and bottom truss rod acesss.


The jagmaster wiki is pretty much accurate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagmaster

They did forget a couple things though. There was a special color run for the Japanese market with the third version in Blue and Red. There was also a version that was never released in America that had 3 single coil pickups. I believe this was made for the asian market only and was after the Vista Series around the time of the 2nd version.

They also did a custom Vista in white with matching headstock for the dude from Los Straightjackets.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:26 pm
by robroe
just listen to joey.



3 styles of jagmaster in the US

1. Vista jagmaster 96-98 came in black, white, CAR, SBL, and 3TS. all came with tort pickguards true 24" scale. same neck and parts that went on japan jags and mustangs.

2. scumbag jagmaster 2002-2004 came in scumbag silver sparkle / black pickguard, CAR and 3ts. these had strat scale 25.5 necks

3. Jagmaster II. came in black / white pickguard and 3TS with tort pickguard. they come with a conversion neck 24" scale.





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Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:34 pm
by serfx
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and robroe gives me beautiful and yet horrible ideas all at the same time.

Photos - lets see if this works

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:45 pm
by DPhil
OK -

Here goes - a few image tags/photos of my '97...

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DP

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:32 am
by jcyphe
Nice

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:33 am
by robroe
aww piss

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:45 am
by laterallateral
SEIZUREBONAR!

Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:16 pm
by hotrodperlmutter
delish.