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jag pups!

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:30 pm
by kevlar
hey, long time lurker, first time poster and all that.

last year i bought a CIJ jag, all was good. then i played it properly in the studio etc and the microphonic feedback was horrible.

i'm going to be replacing the bridge pickup soon, and the neck at a slightly later date too (any good recommendations are very welcome). the thing is, i can't decide on a pickup, which is where i'm hoping you will help me out. i'd love to keep the jaguar singlecoilness for the clean sounds, but have as humbucky a pickup sound with the dirt is kicked in, as i always play with high gain/distortion. i can't decide over staying single coil with a quarter-pound, or going humbucking with a JB JR etc. any recommendations?

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:34 pm
by Noirie.
Seymour Duncan 1/4 for Jaguar. Sounds like what your after. A single coil but ballsy.

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:36 pm
by endsjustifymeans
the gainier you get the better the 1/4 pounders sound. For rock tonez, they're awesome.

clean they're kinda, meh. almost a bit inarticulate.

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:55 pm
by Reece
Aye they're not the best clean but one you give then some grit they shine.

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 6:57 pm
by Mike
It sounds like a 1/4 pounder would be a good compromise. You could also look at an Antiquity II but they're a bit more spendy.

The microphony is often caused by the claw vibrating, so you could try removing that or using a gluegun to secure it to the case.

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:28 pm
by kevlar
cheers for the info, i'll deff be looking into the 1/4 pounder. how would you compare a CIJ jag's stock clean to a 1/4 pounder clean? i'm slightly weary of dropping down in clean sound, but i can't have my cake and eat it eyy

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 7:29 pm
by Mike
To be honest I don't think stock CIJ bridge pickups are much cop. I had one in my Duo-Sonic project and it was pretty weak. I think you'll notice teh 1/4 has more output and a healthier bass response.

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:45 am
by hotrodperlmutter
any duncan jag pup is better than the stock bridge pup.

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:37 pm
by robert(original)
i got the duncan s-jag 3 in the bridge of my jag. i was thoroughly un-impressed with the sound of it, its only marginally better than the stock pup imo.
don't buy one

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:15 pm
by laterallateral
I have a Duncan SJAG-2 (bridge). It's better than the stock CIJ in that it's definitely hotter but it's not versatile at all. I found it to sound downright shitty at all but very high gain levels where I must admit, it does sound pretty darn good but unless that is ALL you want from this pickup, I recommend you steer clear of this one.

The Antiquity II I have in the neck position, on my CIJ is a fucking DREAM, though. Sounds the way a Jaguar should sound, in my opinion. Very cristally, almost bell-like cleans. Once you give it a bit more juice, it breaks up all amps I have played it trough (early 60's Harmony H306, '65 Bandmaster, '77 Traynor YBA-1, 80's JCM800, Peavey Classic 50) gorgeously. Other than vintage 60's Fenders, this is the best Jaguar pickup I have heard.

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:31 pm
by Fran
Definitely 1/4 pounder. If you go for anything hotter you can say goodbye to the traditional Jag sound.
Antiquities work well too but they are pricey, the aged magnets create a smoother sound which works better with Overdrive than the other models. Less 'spikey'.
Never tried Novak or Lollar so could not comment on them.

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:33 pm
by aen
hotrodperlmutter wrote:being butt fucked by a lion is better than the stock bridge pup.

I've never replaced Jag pckups with anything reputable, (just put some cheap "hot" gfs pickups in a bass VI thing) but I love 1/4 punders for jazzmaster.

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:50 pm
by kevlar
ah, mixed reply's start to come in :o . would getting a JB JR totally ruin any jag tones coming through? do they sound good? my money is still on the 1/4 pounder at the moment. will be buying one some time next week

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 7:53 pm
by endsjustifymeans
kevlar wrote:ah, mixed reply's start to come in :o . would getting a JB JR totally ruin any jag tones coming through? do they sound good? my money is still on the 1/4 pounder at the moment. will be buying one some time next week
Yes they sound good. Yes it will ruin any jag tones.

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:02 pm
by Thom
I didn't like the quarter pounder when I put it in mine.
Soon after that I went whole hog and put in a full sized humbucker...now I've got P90s in there and they work for me.
Obviously that involves routing.
If I had to do it over I wouldn't, but get some antiquities or bareknuckle to wind me some to my spec.

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:05 pm
by endsjustifymeans
robroe swears by the 1/4 pounders.

St. Jimmy has one in the neck of the Franken-sonic (used to be mine), I really liked it and I think he does too. Maybe he can get you a sound demo.

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:05 pm
by Fran
aen wrote:
hotrodperlmutter wrote:being butt fucked by a lion is better than the stock bridge pup.
HAHAHA.

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 4:55 am
by hotrodperlmutter
Fran wrote:
aen wrote:
hotrodperlmutter wrote:being butt fucked by a lion is better than the stock bridge pup.
HAHAHA.
i overlooked this. i must say though, i'll take your word for it. i'll keep my stock bridge pup.

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:09 am
by aen
you're well prepared for your next african safari then.

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:36 am
by Mike
Depends what you like soundwise, they're too thin and squealy for me.