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Small Amps that melt your face

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:09 pm
by Fran
I need one.
The Marshall is struggling lately, its cranked to the max and the drummer is still drowning it out in parts of songs. Its 40w valve, but i need something the same size like a 1x15 combi that will fit in a small car boot.
I remember Seymour Duncan made a 100w valve combi that was hideously loud but they seem rare to get hold of.

Anyone got any recommendations?

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:51 pm
by Progrockabuse
get one of those hughes and kettner warp 7 amps.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:58 pm
by Fran
Are'nt they 2x12? Wont fit in the car boot, it has to be 1x12 or 1x15.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:10 pm
by Progrockabuse
you could have my blue deluxe, recover it in leather and studs.

Re: Small Amps that melt your face

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:23 pm
by Doog
As a last ditch attempt, you could try some JJ E34Ls in it? They give you a bit more headroom as they run at a slightly higher voltage, worked for me. You do need to tweak the bias a bit though. I've played with some PROPER loud drummers (Joey from Weevil Knievel has a loud as fuck kit and is a hard hitter) without any volume problems using 50w worth of valves.

You could upgrade the speaker to something that is well-known for being efficient?

I take it you've got that bitch at more-or-less ear-level?

Re: Small Amps that melt your face

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:27 pm
by Progrockabuse
Doog wrote:
Have you got that bitch at more-or-less ear-level?
+1

it may be a bit un-rock, but having it up higher helps a lot. wanna borrow my amp stand? not gigging at the mo.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:32 pm
by Fran
It was at head height last night, the stage was so small i played on the floor in front. I always do elevate it as its pretty much useless on the floor.
That is an interesting solution Doog, never thought of that. A full valve change and bias tweak, hmm, out of my depth there. I suppose that will knock me back £100.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:33 pm
by laterallateral
Yeah, I'm a bit dismayed at that this is an issue at all...
I've never had a problem crushing a drummer with my 50W YBA-1 with ancient EL34s in it.
My bandmate's Peavey Classic 50 can also drown out our kit fairly easily.
Maybe it's because we have a quiet kit?

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:40 pm
by benecol
Moar purple amps and a trailer?

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(clearly, I've just chosen this as the thread to shoehorn this clip into since I knew Fran would like it...)

Peavey Delta Blues is a 15" combo that's always caught my eye, but is only 30 watt.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:54 pm
by Doog
Fran wrote:It was at head height last night, the stage was so small i played on the floor in front. I always do elevate it as its pretty much useless on the floor.
That is an interesting solution Doog, never thought of that. A full valve change and bias tweak, hmm, out of my depth there. I suppose that will knock me back £100.
It's a Marshall DSL401 combo yeah? Becaaaaause, the bias tweak on the TSL/DSLs is a piece of piss, mate- seriously. All you need is a multimeter and a small screwdriver.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:04 pm
by chisa
try a speaker with more volume

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:12 pm
by Gavin
Tell your drummer to quit being a spazz.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:19 pm
by Fran
Doog wrote:
Fran wrote:It was at head height last night, the stage was so small i played on the floor in front. I always do elevate it as its pretty much useless on the floor.
That is an interesting solution Doog, never thought of that. A full valve change and bias tweak, hmm, out of my depth there. I suppose that will knock me back £100.
It's a Marshall DSL401 combo yeah? Becaaaaause, the bias tweak on the TSL/DSLs is a piece of piss, mate- seriously. All you need is a multimeter and a small screwdriver.
yeah, its a 401. Last time i messed with it i knackered a few valves.
Sooo... what/how many of them valves do i need Doog? You can guide me through this and if it all goes wrong its YOUR fault :lol:
laterallateral wrote:Yeah, I'm a bit dismayed at that this is an issue at all...
I've never had a problem crushing a drummer with my 50W YBA-1 with ancient EL34s in it.
It might be my ears dude, our bassist reckons i'm deaf but i suspect he does'nt want me to get too loud lol. Our drummer is ridiculous though, he breaks sticks by the minute and if we are in a room with bad acoustics you end up with shellshock.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:21 pm
by laterallateral
chisa wrote:try a speaker with more volume
does this actually make a difference in terms of acheivable volume?
I tried a 22W amp with a 30W 12inch Weber and later swapped it out for a 150W Eminence Texas Heat and all I noticed is less breakup.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:22 pm
by timhulio
Musicman 112 RP- I used to have one. You can get them in 100 watt config. Very heavy, but small in size.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:24 pm
by laterallateral
Fran wrote:It might be my ears dude, our bassist reckons i'm deaf but i suspect he does'nt want me to get too loud lol. Our drummer is ridiculous though, he breaks sticks by the minute and if we are in a room with bad acoustics you end up with shellshock.
Do you parctise/perform with earplugs? I always find earplugs (the cheap dollar store, squisy foam kind) really do wonders at separating the cymbal top end from my amp's top end.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:29 pm
by chisa
laterallateral wrote:
chisa wrote:try a speaker with more volume
does this actually make a difference in terms of acheivable volume?
I tried a 22W amp with a 30W 12inch Weber and later swapped it out for a 150W Eminence Texas Heat and all I noticed is less breakup.
yeah, but not wattage, decibels.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:30 pm
by Fran
laterallateral wrote:
Fran wrote:It might be my ears dude, our bassist reckons i'm deaf but i suspect he does'nt want me to get too loud lol. Our drummer is ridiculous though, he breaks sticks by the minute and if we are in a room with bad acoustics you end up with shellshock.
Do you parctise/perform with earplugs? I always find earplugs (the cheap dollar store, squisy foam kind) really do wonders at separating the cymbal top end from my amp's top end.
What? What did you say? :lol:
No, i tried it but could'nt get on with it.

I'll check them Musicman's Tim, although the re-valve/bias is appealing at the moment.

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:31 pm
by Progrockabuse
you gonna do it yourself with doog's help or take it to somewhere local

Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:31 pm
by chisa
do you have the stock speaker in?