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I LOVE this song, truly, partly Toni Hallidays vox but Dean Garcias guitar work. I have this on vinyl but recently found it on Youtube after years of waiting..
What FX do you think Dean is using? Wah, Phaser (rate high/fast),..

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Best I can tell its subtle wah or some sorta low setting envelope filter. or a reallly slow phaser?

ha! i just downloaded this album last week. tis fantastic!!!

Pat.

It's a great song, I don't think I've listened to any Curve since I was a teenager...

If you like Curve, you should give Garbage a chance. They're practically the same band. (I think Butch Vig said he used Curve as a template). Cocteau Twins is also kind of in the same vein, though a bit more pop and less rock.

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Aye, i love the Cocteau Twins. Some Garbage stuff is good, they get a bit too dark for me in places though.

<3 garbage but I don't see the comparison to this curve band at all. they sound way more influenced by the quiet/loud dynamics and vocal delivery of american grunge.

that curve video really makes me want an oly white jag.

mage wrote:<3 garbage but I don't see the comparison to this curve band at all.

You have to be kidding. The type of drumming, the heavily affected guitars, the singing, the production techniques... The similarities are there. Not sure how you don't hear that.

Aeon wrote:

mage wrote:<3 garbage but I don't see the comparison to this curve band at all.

You have to be kidding. The type of drumming,

the playing style is comparable but the garbage drumming is way heavier. it has that big thick snare.

Aeon wrote:the heavily affected guitars,

not at all. the curve song has a shitload of reverb and the garbage song has this metallic almost industrial sounding distortion. and the playing style is totally different.

Aeon wrote:the singing,

they have similar voices maybe but their singing style is significantly dissimilar.

Aeon wrote:the production techniques...

yeah it's comparable, but you can make songs that sound very different using the same production techniques.

I think it's a pretty big stretch to look for similarities between these two bands. sure you can find some things here and there but for the most part they do not sound the same.

"With regard to the group's significance to the development of 'alternative' rock and pop music, it has been claimed by both Curve aficionados and music writers that British/American grunge-pop band Garbage appropriated large portions of Curve's musical template, and constructed from it more 'mainstream' material, albeit with a certain 'edge' remaining."

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none of the curve songs in this thread sound anything like garbage. but luckily for the sake of your argument I've listened to curve before and I remembered this song:

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now that I've argued your side for you, I can see your point. I don't know anything about their releases or when they shifted from shoegaze-pop to this heavier sound but I can definitely see how this could have influenced garbage.

Aeon wrote:"With regard to the group's significance to the development of 'alternative' rock and pop music, it has been claimed by both Curve aficionados and music writers that British/American grunge-pop band Garbage appropriated large portions of Curve's musical template, and constructed from it more 'mainstream' material, albeit with a certain 'edge' remaining."

yea, don't agree with that so much. curve seems way more "pop" sounding than garbage IMO. garbage has just as much if not more 'edge' than curve ever had.

I can hear some comparisons, especially with Curves 'darker' material but i think Curve generally had a poppier edge even down to the chord progressions. Garbage are more Minor sounding and i too can hear an industrial slant hear and there. Shirley Manson does'nt have Toni Hallidays vocal range either imo, nowhere near as sweet.
Anyway, two bands i never saw live.. bah.

I like a couple of Garbage songs, but I've never really rated Shirley Manson's vocals and her lyrics are a bit lame (if it's her that writes them)...
I saw them live at the Reading festival once, but they were headlining the main stage and looked a like they were out of their depth...

curve; now there's a blast from the past, this was the song that made me go and listen to some curve

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