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Second guitar: thoughts?
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:03 am
by BacchusJim
It may not be my main instrument, but I'm getting very annoyed retuning my one guitar, an Ibanez GAX30. No complaints at all about it, but I wouldn't mind something different. Down to a shortlist of two at the moment: either an
Ibanez Jet King of some kind, or an
Epiphone Wlishere. Both very nice; in my view the Jet king looks better, but the Epiphone sounds dirty as fuck. Ideas? Alternatives? Was thinking just over £200, 24.75" neck for preference.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 12:49 am
by endsjustifymeans
Jet king by a fucking mile.
I don't know what they go for over there, but see if you can find a squier master series in your price range. The M-80, Master Telecaster or Master Strat. 24.75" set neck (FABULOUS NECKS) SD JB in bridge and Jass in neck. The m-80 is basswood, the others are mahogony. Beautiful instruments and probably the best quality squier has EVER put out. They play and sound fantastic, and the hardware is all good quality.
I got my M-80 for $140 US, and it's easily my go to guitar. So good that I ended up selling my Gibson LP because the M-80 just put it to shame.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 2:59 am
by Bacchus
endsjustifymeans wrote:Jet king by a fucking mile.
I don't know what they go for over there, but see if you can find a squier master series in your price range. The M-80, Master Telecaster or Master Strat. 24.75" set neck (FABULOUS NECKS) SD JB in bridge and Jass in neck. The m-80 is basswood, the others are mahogony. Beautiful instruments and probably the best quality squier has EVER put out. They play and sound fantastic, and the hardware is all good quality.
I got my M-80 for $140 US, and it's easily my go to guitar. So good that I ended up selling my Gibson LP because the M-80 just put it to shame.
HA!
This was more or less my exact response when Jim asked me about this.
Jim, the M-80 would be like the guitar equivalent of your bass, so it'd be like a complete set.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:14 am
by endsjustifymeans
I have black but the transparent red is very nice. It's not shown but they also made brownish transparent one, much much darker than the amber.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:20 am
by Bacchus
I like black. Was the brown not a satin, walnuttey finish?
Is this one of the Squiers where they kept changing the inlays every so often? Are there M-80's where the blocks extend to the edge of the fretboard?
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:21 am
by robert(original)
i always thought these things were badass.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:29 am
by mickie08
there is also both set neck, and bolt on neck varieties. I have seen te bolt ons for around 100 used and 140-180 for the set neck. thats USD
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:34 am
by Mages
you should get an Ibanez GAX70 or AX120. or if that's too close to your old guitar you should get one the
GFS Offset Guitars.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:37 am
by Bacchus
Not sure about those offsets. I can't see Jim getting on well with anything with switches or a tremolo. He's a simple sort.
I've thought of something else: take a look around all the Cash Converter type places there, and buy a hardtail super strat of some description. It'll look awful, but you'll get change of 200 quid, you'll have something a bit different (HSS pickups), and you could end up with something very solidly built.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:39 am
by robroe
they don't come with JB's and Jazz's.
they come with duncan designed pickups
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:40 am
by Mages
BacchusPaul wrote:Not sure about those offsets. I can't see Jim getting on well with anything with switches or a tremolo. He's a simple sort.
no trem and only your standard 3-way here
the jagmaster style ones you can just crank the trem down and forget about it.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:42 am
by Bacchus
That's really nice actually. Hmmmm.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:46 am
by robroe
i love the m80 but i never bought one because i always strum my guitar right at the butt of the neck. having a toggley right there would never work for me.
i love the neck on them though.
ESP makes a guitar called the hybrid that actually comes with a real JB in it though. you should check it out....its built around the same body style as the epiphones.

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:49 am
by Mages
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:50 am
by Reece
oooh christ that's nice.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:58 am
by endsjustifymeans
BacchusPaul wrote:I like black. Was the brown not a satin, walnuttey finish?
Is this one of the Squiers where they kept changing the inlays every so often? Are there M-80's where the blocks extend to the edge of the fretboard?
There are M-80's that have no inlays, and a bolt on neck. They also have cheaper hardware and don't have SD humbuckers. I'd advise not getting those. Definitely stick with the set neck model, and the brown was a walnutty satin finish.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:00 am
by endsjustifymeans
robroe wrote:they don't come with JB's and Jazz's.
they come with duncan designed pickups
Way to be a stickler, Duncan Designed JB clone and Jazz clone.
I've played my DD JB side by side with a SD JB, and they sound identical.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:00 am
by Bacchus
That's the one I was thinking of.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:05 pm
by Fran
GAX 70's are well nice for the monies, or even the 75 model with Drop D switch.
Theres always the good old Jagmaster, i'd trust it over the Jet King and GFS stuff anyday.
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:47 pm
by BacchusJim
Good points, these.
I'd be all over Mage's tele thing if the shipping to the UK wasn't so ridiculous. Wouldn't be fucked with anything other than a hardtail or through-strung jobby. Switches I don't mind, but I prefer my guitar idiot-proof. If it's overly complicated it's only going to get broke.
Paul has a Jagmaster, and aside from the fact that he's called dibs on it I never liked the neck on those things. I'm a hamfisted type. The ESP would've been perfect, but for the slightly inflated price.
There's an M-80 going on
Ebay I'll be keeping an eye on. Other than that the superstrat idea's not bad. Just a matter of finding a functional one.