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60's stang decals
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:51 pm
by crofty
Apparantly, back in the day fender didnt laquer over the top of their decals when they applied them, and just slapped them on and left it at that. I'm putting a decal onto my 66 stang and want to know if this is true?
thanks guys.
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:56 pm
by stewart
yup.
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:37 pm
by dots
yes, and it's why when you see those 40-some-odd-year-old fenders the decals have a tendency to be torn away in places.
Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:18 pm
by James
If I were you I'd still put it under the laquer unless you want it to chip away over time. It's one of those period correct things that would look better to most people done the modern way.
I think that by 66 they might have been doing that anyway. From memory it's only the first few years of the 60s that had the decal on top, maybe up to 64.
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:41 am
by Dave
My 65 is on top. Not seen any others first hand.
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 2:36 am
by kypdurron
Black Cat Bone wrote:My 65 is on top.
Mine, too. That might have been changed when they switched to poly laquer sometime in the late 60s?
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:08 am
by paul_
My AV '57 Strat has the decal on top and a tiny bit of the d in Fender missing.
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:30 am
by Haze
I don't have a pitcure on hand but my '64 Jag has its on top of the finish
this one KIND OF shows it in the bottom left part of the decal but you get the idea
i'll probably be putting the decal on my jazzmaster im building underneath the nitro so it will last longer.
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:54 pm
by Mike
My '66 Jaguar decal is on top of the finish.
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:23 pm
by Joey
When Fender was rushing, they let bodies leave the factory with absolutely no clear coat at all, just a color coat.
Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 5:43 pm
by James
From reading about strats it looks like 68 was the changeover year.
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 12:10 am
by astro
After Fender switched to poly lacquer they had problems painting over the decals with the poly. The decals would get wrecked, so up until the mid 70's Fender still used nitro on the headstock face to bury the decal on what was otherwise a poly finished guitar. Often this is evident because the headstock face's nitro coat has significantly yellowed with time, whereas the rest of the neck looks like new white maple under perfectly clear gloss. I'm not sure if all fenders of the early 70's were finished like this but I've seen quite a few. My '75 P-Bass is like this, whereas the 1976 Mustang that I used to own did not have nitro on the headstock, just poly. I believe that Fender stopped doing this once they started applying the serial number to the headstock on the decal, but again I'm not sure.
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:19 am
by crofty
really interesting and useful stuff. thanks guys.
does anyone have a close up of a period mustang headstock so i can line it up jus' perfect?
cheers.
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:24 am
by stewart
just do an image search on google:
i imagine the placement varied wildy.
Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:04 pm
by brambleperro
astro wrote:After Fender switched to poly lacquer they had problems painting over the decals with the poly. The decals would get wrecked, so up until the mid 70's Fender still used nitro on the headstock face to bury the decal on what was otherwise a poly finished guitar. Often this is evident because the headstock face's nitro coat has significantly yellowed with time, whereas the rest of the neck looks like new white maple under perfectly clear gloss.
Saying that made me think of this:
mage wrote:some rainy day seattle pictures...
taylornutt wrote:If you add more pics, make sure to get some neck shots as well.
the neck you say? alright, will try to get some later.
When Mage posted that, I was stuck thinking for a while why the face of the headstock looked dramatically different from the rest of the maple.