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Both are very nice and I really can't decide.

Go Super Reverb if you can. Less watts, but bigger sound. RI or old one?

Eithier or

twins are a bitch to move-- and i am a pretty big guy--
not sure about the weight comparison-- but it does matter over time-

twin will give you more clean headroom and alot brighter tone. It is also usually a bit easier/cheaper to find.

The Super will give you a fuller sound (IMHO) break up easier, and because it is a little taller, can be easier to hear when you are gigging (2x12 combos have a tendancy to go under you feet, and of course this can be corrected with amp stands or kicback legs).

I would take a super any day over a twin. I would also take a pro-reverb over a twin as well. You should be able to find a decent deal on a silverface twin fairly easy...Pre or Super reverbs are a bit harder to find and more $

Justyn wrote:Eithier or

go listen to elliott smith.


and I haven't had much experience with the super but I love my twin, even though it's a silverface with volume knob one.

Having played a fair amount through a Twin I would have to go with the Super any day. For me it seemed that the Twin had to be at near unbearable volume levels to get the kind of tone that I wanted and even then the highs tended to kill my drummers ears. He started using earplugs. Pink ear plugs. I felt ashamed. I strongly feel that this would not have happened had my non guitar playing friend purchased a Super Reverb instead of a Twin Reverb as an "investment" for me to borrow every time my amp took a shit and died. So...yeah, go with the super reverb.

Super sounds a touch better in my opinion - Warmer, clearer, more mids.

Both will suck to carry up stairs. The super will suck more because of the height. The handle on top is a joke - no way you can lift it and carry it comfortably by that unless you are 7 feet tall. The Twin is heavier, though. An important lesson I learned: it doesn't matter how nice your amp sounds if your fingers are all tight, sore, and raw from carrying it to the gig.

Have you looked at the Fender Vibrolux Reissue? It's the same circuit as the Super Reverb, but a 2x10 instead of a 4x10. It's a few hundred cheaper and much easier to transport. The sound is very similar to the Super, and you can always use an inexpensive amp stand to get more projection.

That sounds like it could be cool

super all the way! i'm not a fan of the reissues but they sound ok if you replace the speakers and the tubes. and, twins are much better if you put high gain 12ax7s in 'em.

omari wrote:super all the way! i'm not a fan of the reissues but they sound ok if you replace the speakers and the tubes. and, twins are much better if you put high gain 12ax7s in 'em.

I'm finding this out the hard way with my 65 DRRI. Decent amp but badly needs a speaker / tube change.

Personally, I love my Twin Reverb (early 1972, has master volume, but not push/pull), but yeah, it's a clean tone amp. Any dirt you might want will have to come from some serious signal boost to push the pre, a pedal, or ear bleeding volume. Swapping out the tubes to something that breaks up sooner could really open up some possibilities though. I've thought about doing it, but haven't had the cash.

If it comes down to personal preference, I'll take both please

lank81 wrote:

omari wrote:super all the way! i'm not a fan of the reissues but they sound ok if you replace the speakers and the tubes. and, twins are much better if you put high gain 12ax7s in 'em.

I'm finding this out the hard way with my 65 DRRI. Decent amp but badly needs a speaker / tube change.

If you're gonna end up spending that much cash on an amp you shouldn't have to do either. If you swap out all the tubes and speakers then all you have is some tolex, pine, and few capcitors.

nwordjim wrote:

lank81 wrote:

omari wrote:super all the way! i'm not a fan of the reissues but they sound ok if you replace the speakers and the tubes. and, twins are much better if you put high gain 12ax7s in 'em.

I'm finding this out the hard way with my 65 DRRI. Decent amp but badly needs a speaker / tube change.

If you're gonna end up spending that much cash on an amp you shouldn't have to do either. If you swap out all the tubes and speakers then all you have is some tolex, pine, and few capcitors.

Not even remotely true.

Chassis
Output Transformer
Power Transformer
Rectifier (tube or solid state)
Pots
Knobs
Jacks
Switches
Fuses
PCB - and contents (resistors, caps)
Hookup wire (which has to be routed and twisted exactly to reduce hum and avoid oscillations)
Tube sockets


Not that it is appropriate to cheap out on tubes and the speaker, but there is a LOT more to the rest of the combo.

Yeah, obviously there's more to it Mike I was being facetious, toungue and cheek advice.

Personally, if someone told me the pedals I make amounted to nothing more than resistors, caps and a metal case I would be more than a little disillusioned.

The circuit design itself has worth.

Mike wrote:Personally, if someone told me the pedals I make amounted to nothing more than resistors, caps and a metal case I would be more than a little disillusioned.

The circuit design itself has worth.

it sure does.

However, if I am gonna pay over €1000 for an amp I'd want it to be perfect out fo the box, but maybe that's just me.

Taste is a personal quantity. Just the fact an amp costs a lot doesn't mean it's perfect for you.

A Fender Twin costs a lot of money, it would be completely un-perfect for me because I like my amps to Overdrive, not just stay clean. It's sort of up to you to find an amp that is perfect for you at the price range you want, not the amp itself.

I love my Twin, but then I've always sought extremely clean amps and using pedals. I heard a Super was supposedly nice, but I've never played through one.

The Twin is so damn heavy, as previously stated.