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MY LES PAUL: FUCKING BROKE AGAIN.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 6:56 pm
by Rhysyrhys
OHHH FUCKKKK SAKKESSS


This time yeah? Fucking at the end of my bed, just fell to the side and bang, headstock has snapped again. FUCKING GIBSON. FUCK YOUR STUPID GUITARS. FUCK THEM. FUCK.

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Good thing that I have it insured...

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:03 pm
by laterallateral
I notice it broke at an entirely different place than it did last time, too.
Hey Gibson, maybe you should make your guitar necks ENTIRELY out of wood glue?

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:03 pm
by Thom
*fuuuuuuu*

What a ballache. I fear this happening to mine - so usually it's hanging on the wall.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:07 pm
by pumpkin
First off, sorry this happened. It sucks. It's heart breaking.

However, it was on your bed and fell to the floor... keep it on a stand or in the case when you're not playing it.

I wouldn't repair it again, I'd get a new neck put in. GFS?

get your decals here

http://cgi.ebay.ie/4-x-5cm-Small-Gibson ... 5d261f5c77

Re: MY LES PAUL: FUCKING BROKE AGAIN.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:19 pm
by Noirie.
Rhysyrhys wrote:Good thing that I have it insured...
So you can get it repaired for free? Or something like a discount on a brand new one?

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:41 pm
by Narco Martenot
Ouch, sorry to hear that.

Is this just the nature of a set-neck design, or does Gibson just make extremely fragile and/or poorly designed stuff? Any time I see this happening, it always seems to be with a Gibson guitar.

I have always thought it was strange that people accidentally drop their Gibson guitars a few inches on carpet and they snap; whereas I have literally thrown my $100 Squier Strat across the room at walls and other miscellaneous objects, and it barely has a ding in it.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:04 pm
by pumpkin
Narco Martenot wrote:Ouch, sorry to hear that.

Is this just the nature of a set-neck design, or does Gibson just make extremely fragile and/or poorly designed stuff? Any time I see this happening, it always seems to be with a Gibson guitar.

I have always thought it was strange that people accidentally drop their Gibson guitars a few inches on carpet and they snap; whereas I have literally thrown my $100 Squier Strat across the room at walls and other miscellaneous objects, and it barely has a ding in it.
I think it's the angled headstock, also allot of tension in the neck.

I've seen snapped headstocks on Gretsch, Martin and yes even Fender guitars. Once a mate of mine leaned his American made Fender Jazz Bass up against a door, someone came in the room in a rush when it was all over the headstock was clean off the guitar.

Gibsons are meant to be played, played for a lifetime... but when you're done playing, put it back in it's case or at least on a stand.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:45 pm
by Haze
nwordjim wrote: I wouldn't repair it again, I'd get a new neck put in. GFS?

get your decals here

http://cgi.ebay.ie/4-x-5cm-Small-Gibson ... 5d261f5c77
ignore this completely, sorry Jim

repair it, if done correctly the repaired joint will be stronger than it originally was
don't have a new neck put on it, it's a set neck guitar and trying to replace the neck would be complicated and could ruin the guitar
even if a new neck is the only option stay away from lower quality parts like mighty mite and gfs.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:00 pm
by Dave
You're all wrong. As anyone knows it's that gold hardware - it attracts poltergeists who really really hate gold hardware.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:08 pm
by Mages
Narco Martenot wrote:Ouch, sorry to hear that.

Is this just the nature of a set-neck design, or does Gibson just make extremely fragile and/or poorly designed stuff? Any time I see this happening, it always seems to be with a Gibson guitar.

I have always thought it was strange that people accidentally drop their Gibson guitars a few inches on carpet and they snap; whereas I have literally thrown my $100 Squier Strat across the room at walls and other miscellaneous objects, and it barely has a ding in it.
most of gibson's building methods are traditional guitar building practices. it's not so much the angled headstock as much as it's because they use mahogany for the neck. which is a lightweight wood with not very much strength. pretty stupid in my opinion. I have an ibanez with an angled headstock maple neck and I drop it on the floor all the time.

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:10 pm
by gaybear
just call it an extreme relic'ing, and win!

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:24 pm
by TieDye
Invest in a good guitar stand, and USE IT next time!

Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 11:30 pm
by Dave
Do an volute?

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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:01 am
by Justyn
That's why I don't fuck around with set net jobbies

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:59 am
by Justin J
Black Cat Bone wrote:Do an volute?

http://www.alembic.com/club/messages/402/10183.jpg
pretty much. i don't know why people are so opposed to them. gibson has been putting them on banjos since the '20s. my greco has a volute and it's as solid as a rock.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:04 am
by brianeharmonjr
This is way too common with Gibsons and the main reason I no longer own any. Mahogany angled-head necks with no volute are just asking to be broken. Yes, you should have had it on a stand, but it wouldn't have happened with a properly-made guitar. I work in a music store and have seen many broken headstocks come in, but it seems a good 90% of them are Gibby's. Sorry for your loss. Just the way the strings are put on, the fact that you're taking pictures of it with the string tension still on it, and the fact that it was just leaning up against something certainly say a bit about how you take care of it, but it still shouldn't happen on a quality guitar that's reasonably well taken care of.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:14 am
by taylornutt
Is the neck on the Gibson made from one piece of wood? Taylor Guitars actually uses a glued neck joint to attach the headstocks on their guitars and it significantly increased the amount of pressure the guitar could take. They actually did pressure tests to show how the neck joint took way more pressure to break than a traditional one piece neck.

I am sorry about your guitar. I just found a structural problem on one of my guitars so I can relate. It really stinks.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:17 am
by Nick
I'm PRETTY sure they're two pieces, but I could be wrong.

I can also say that I've not had a guitar crash down on its neck since I was 12 (and it was a strat copy so it took the abuse). Common sense people. But yes that sucks and I do feel bad for you, sort of.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:23 am
by Billy3000
What I read was:

"I was careless with my guitar and it broke"

It sucks if it really only took a small fall and broke but you should take better care of a set neck guitar. Especially if you have had the neck on it break before.

Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 6:22 am
by Justin J
Nick wrote:I'm PRETTY sure they're two pieces, but I could be wrong.
the vintage ones are just one solid piece, so depending on how much the guitar is trying to replicate an old one, it might not be.
santa cruz do a combination two-piece/volute. classy:
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