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A real '59 popped up on eBay

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:40 pm
by Haze
http://cgi.ebay.com/1959-Gibson-Les-Pau ... 0201197688

been watching the price since $75,000. Amazing what these instruments go for but I do believe one like this will be worth millions one day.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:50 pm
by jcyphe
It's strange they put it on ebay and didn't sell it underground. That guy's gonna have to pay a bunch of taxes and eBay fees now.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:10 pm
by Will
How does he know the bridge PUP is double white if the covers have never been off?

No matter where he sells it he will incur auction fees or other costs, but eBay requires no authentication. The counterfeit risk with '59 bursts is very, very high.

Or he just wants it exposed to a global market easily. Still, I would have taken it to Gruhns.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:51 pm
by jcyphe
Will wrote:
No matter where he sells it he will incur auction fees or other costs, but eBay requires no authentication.
That's not true. A great deal of these guitars are sold in private transactions and while there are costs associated with that it's nothing like an auction house.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:17 pm
by paul_
Will wrote:How does he know the bridge PUP is double white if the covers have never been off?
You can see what color the bobbins are by taking one baseplate screw out of each side on the bottom (there are two per bobbin) and shining a light inside. They are either side of the magnet so you can see straight through.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:27 pm
by Will
paul_ wrote:
Will wrote:How does he know the bridge PUP is double white if the covers have never been off?
You can see what color the bobbins are by taking one baseplate screw out of each side on the bottom (there are two per bobbin) and shining a light inside. They are either side of the magnet so you can see straight through.
Clever, clever, clever...

As for private transactions, how would something like that even be set up? The limited market you get going private would also decrease the price - seems like auction costs are worth it given the larger market.

Posted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 11:29 pm
by westtexasred
Here is what Joe Ganzler said on the LPF in regard to this auction :

"OUTSTANDING job on the photos and auction! When you've got nuthin' to hide, you've got nuthin' to hide; those photos ARE "the authentication"!

Having said that, *I* personally don't recommend putting a Burst on ebay as a sales outlet. In reality, there's prolly 12 guys on the planet Earth at any given snapshot in time that are "Burst buyers". From my own personal experience with Burst buyers, I'd say HALF of that 12 are no longer buyers for ANY Burst once it shows up on the 'bay...

I'm sure the "reserve" on this one is set at US$750K, to make absolutely CERTAIN that it doesn't go through ebay. Looks like a great guitar; I'm sure it SOUNDS even better!"

When asked to explain why someone would bother to post this guitar on ebay if they didn't want to sell it there Joe replied:

"Pretty simple - to avoid ebay & PayPal fees! That, and to get the guitar in front of a World market, possibly ferret out some cash/trade offers, etc. Shoot, he might get an offer for a vintage Ferrari in trade, from some guy that lives in a rented storage space!"

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http://www.ganzlerincorporated.com/

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:10 am
by kypdurron
interesting. will look in 5 days again ... let me add a non iphone url: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0201197688

So now I only must somehow understand how it is possible someone would spend that much money on a guitar ... I mean hey, it's only about 100 vintage Jazzmasters :D

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:54 am
by westtexasred
That burst by Joe's head looks like my Classic.

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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:31 am
by Narco Martenot
kypdurron wrote:
So now I only must somehow understand how it is possible someone would spend that much money on a guitar ... I mean hey, it's only about 100 vintage Jazzmasters :D
It's an investment. Sell it again in 5-10 years. I don't think you buy something like this to actually play it, unless you have an insane amount of money.

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:03 am
by Haze
yeah sorry about the iphone link, i edited the op with a good link

FUCK if i had a burst i'd play it to hell and back.

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:26 am
by hotrodperlmutter
that shit's ugly. i mean, i'd rock it, but it's fucking ugly.

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:28 am
by Haze
silly people. awesome guitars like this shouldn't be an investment they should be used to harness PURE RAWK POWER

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:34 am
by hotrodperlmutter
precisely. i hope obama votes for the SLOAN act and gives all awesome humbackers to my ng sloan in order to fulfill their civil rawk duty to the fullest

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:12 am
by serfx
the most impressive part is that the headstock has never snapped off and needed to be repaired in 50 years..
i'm sure shipping via UPA/USPS will fix that small issue

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:21 am
by Mike
T.K.O

It's not even a good looking example. That Epiphone Gold Top I'm buying from Rob is far prettier.

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:25 am
by Haze
Mike wrote:That Epiphone Gold Top I'm buying from Rob is far prettier.
lal wat?
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Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:30 am
by Mike
It wasn't at Doogfest III, it was at Doogfest II. Details are in Classifieds.

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Better looking. CHEAP.

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:33 am
by Haze
yeah, but that video cracks me up every time!
those gold tops are great looking, i'd take one of those over any other lp finish.

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:42 am
by Mages
sorry mike but going by the price it's at now, it's at least two hundred times better than the epi goldtop. you'll never truly know tone until you take out a mortgage to pay for your guitar.