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Rewiring my Jaguar
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:22 am
by cobascis
So I've probably spent in excess of 4 hours wiring and rewiring my jaguar (old MIJ electronics decided to die). New brass shaft pots, cloth wiring, etc. I finished it yesterday and tapped the pickups. They both seemed to click with a screw driver, though the rhythm circuit didn't work at all. Also, when the bass cut switch was flipped, it just buzzed. F*ck. More problematic was that when I touched the lead channel control plate (the one with pots) the buzz (non-related to bass cut) diminished (as it should..?). BUT, touching the 3 switch plate or the rhythm control plate OR the bridge just increased the buzz tremendously.
At this point I assume it meant I had cold solder joints to the ground (my MIJ has brass plates). I redid all those joints, not having a multimeter to check. Still messed up. I had a gig to go to, so I ripped it out and temporarily hooked the pickup directly to the input jack, but ended up NOT having time to restring it - I had to use a strat with light strings (worst. thing. ever. could. not. play.).
ANYWAY. Jaguar circuit is waaaay complicated, many things to go wrong. Tomorrow I will restart, but if I run into the same issues what do you guys think is going wrong?
What schematic should I use?
For an MIJ with brass plates, each indiviual section should be connected to the ground plates, and each ground plate connected by a wire, correct?
Halp. thanks.
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:29 am
by cobascis
Whoa.
Sorry completely spaced what forum I was browsing, if mod could move this to either shortscales or projects, thanks!
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:34 am
by robroe
done
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:29 am
by rodvonbon
Grounding issue.
What schematic were you going by?
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:31 am
by cobascis
I was using the standard fender one, then a seymour duncan one. Pretty sure it was wired correctly.
Also how would you wire it sans the rhythm circuit, which I've been considering.
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:24 am
by robroe
if you don't get this figured out by Sunday morning, take a bunch of close ups of all the parts and we will sort it out for you
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:26 am
by cobascis
^^will do. I was actually pretty proud of my work, too. then it didn't work.

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:55 pm
by robroe
it happened to me when i was trying to get the dotsmaster to work. i wired that thing up exactly like it said i should. then after i got it all the way to california with me in my suitcase only half of it fucking worked.
Dots did we ever get it to work all the way? does it work now?
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:14 pm
by cobascis
fuck it, I just rewired it and no sound when tapping on pickups at all. pics to follow.
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:21 pm
by robroe
hhahaha lulz
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:35 pm
by cobascis
here we go, shit pictures at the top but I think the bottom ones will be good enough for you folks? lemmee know if I need to take more/what of.
lank:
http://pbckt.com/sW.CU8
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 8:38 pm
by cobascis
this is a good one

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:02 pm
by Earth
Some SD diagram are wrong,including the jaguar one and if you wire it exactly as per the SD jaguar diagram, your guitar wont work....assuming we're talking about the same SD jaguar diagram as there have been a few over the years and some a correct.
Use this one, I drew it myself as the ones online were either wrong or of poor resolution. All black lines with arrows represent ground and should be all connecting together at some point. The bridge or trem must be grounded also. Its also color coded correctly.
It works, and its 100% verified.....anyone can see that by following audio path anyways.

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:04 am
by cobascis
aannyyyone have any idea where I messed up?
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 2:27 am
by robroe
green and black wire are mixed up on the jack
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:03 am
by cobascis
robroe wrote:green and black wire are mixed up on the jack
hah! really? I have no idea how to tell the ground from otherwise..
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:08 am
by cobascis
oh I see it has that exposed metal bit on the otherside. ill fix that up and see how it goes.
before I stared this I wax potted the pups, should cut down on the squealies!
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 3:47 am
by Mustang Melx
robroe wrote:green and black wire are mixed up on the jack
I was just about to say the same thing, it looks like to have the tip going to ground.
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:31 am
by Mike
yeah, you're sending the signal from the pickups/switching to the ground tab on the jack. Bad times.
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 12:51 pm
by robroe
did it help ?