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Non-Fender short scales?

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:20 pm
by Phil O'Keefe
What else is out there in the 24" scale range besides the usual Fender suspects? I know about Jags, MM's Mustangs, Broncos, Duo Sonics, Jagmasters, etc.... but does anyone else make anything in the 24" scale range?

I also know about 24.75" scale lengths too, and even own a few - Les Paul, Casino, Rickenbacker 610... but I'm wondering if anyone other than Fender ever made 24" scale stuff... :?

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:30 pm
by Mustang Melx
There's the Gibson Byrdland, which apparently is 23 1/2" scale.

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:47 pm
by Phil O'Keefe
Mustang Melx wrote:There's the Gibson Byrdland, which apparently is 23 1/2" scale.
That's a weird scale. I haven't seen a Byrdland in ages... probably not since my late teens. I can't remember what they play like. But thanks for the reminder Melx.

BTW, I think I just hit 50 posts. ;)

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:48 pm
by Mo Law-ka
there were 3/4 les pauls made but i dont know what scale they were.



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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 3:57 pm
by James
That double cut looks fantastic. The only bad thing about it is the knob placement. I love the way the horns look a little more rounded than usual.

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:12 pm
by Mustang Melx
Phil O'Keefe wrote:
Mustang Melx wrote:There's the Gibson Byrdland, which apparently is 23 1/2" scale.
That's a weird scale. I haven't seen a Byrdland in ages... probably not since my late teens. I can't remember what they play like. But thanks for the reminder Melx.

BTW, I think I just hit 50 posts. ;)
yeah, very odd scale, I knew it was short but I didn't know the scale until I googled it and I wasn't expecting that.

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 4:53 pm
by robroe
the 24" omar ibanez guitar has a neck on it that feels exactly like a super sonic neck.


im sure they used his old black supersonic as a template when they made this one


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Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 5:26 pm
by cur
From MF's description of New Les Paul Jr.

Today's Gibson Les Paul Junior electric guitar captures many of the same details and intensity as the original, including a 24" scale length mahogany neck that meets the body at the 16th fret, a 22-fret rosewood fingerboard.

I am not sure if all of them are 24" or just some.

Also, Brian May signature guitar.

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:11 pm
by Ankhanu
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Goddamn, generally I dislike Ibanez, but they need to remake these puppies... and make a reverse body!
I was lookin at the lefty for a second thinking it looked like a sweet reverse before realizing it was strung left.

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 7:52 pm
by SKC Willie
I have always wanted to play one of this guitars but have never been able to get my hands on one!


One popped up on craigslist recently for like . . . $300 but I don't ever have cash :(

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:20 pm
by Bacchus
Ankhanu wrote: Goddamn, generally I dislike Ibanez, but they need to remake these puppies... and make a reverse body!
I was lookin at the lefty for a second thinking it looked like a sweet reverse before realizing it was strung left.
As far as I know Ibanez currently offer a couple of these models. They also make loads of other awesome guitars beyond the superstrats.

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:49 pm
by Ankhanu
BacchusPaul wrote:
Ankhanu wrote: Goddamn, generally I dislike Ibanez, but they need to remake these puppies... and make a reverse body!
I was lookin at the lefty for a second thinking it looked like a sweet reverse before realizing it was strung left.
As far as I know Ibanez currently offer a couple of these models. They also make loads of other awesome guitars beyond the superstrats.
Oh, well, there ya go! I've pretty much only come across their various shredders, overly thin-necked basses, and artcores. Admittedly, I do kinda like their Artcores. I know some of their vintage stuff is superb, but I've never actually seen these models; the stuff available around here is pretty limited. I might have to look into their current catalogue a bit closer.


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Schecter Corsair is a 24 3/4" scale
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as is the Tempest Classic
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There's a whole list of shortscale 6-string basses over on bassvi.org

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:54 pm
by clarkbar
Aren't the old Danelectro's are like 22" or something?

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 12:43 am
by Phil O'Keefe
cur wrote:From MF's description of New Les Paul Jr.

Today's Gibson Les Paul Junior electric guitar captures many of the same details and intensity as the original, including a 24" scale length mahogany neck that meets the body at the 16th fret, a 22-fret rosewood fingerboard.

I am not sure if all of them are 24" or just some.

Also, Brian May signature guitar.
Oh yeah, that's right - I forgot about the Brian May models - I knew they were 24" scale. OTOH, I'm not sure I would ever really want one - they're so iconic, so identified with him in my mind tat I'd feel funny playing one.

As far as the MF LP Jr description, I saw that a while back. I'm not sure if that's really true, or a typo where someone accidentally left off the ".75" from the end of that or what. I thought most LP Jrs were 24.75", but maybe some of them were / are 24". :?

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2010 1:23 am
by Leisureclub
clarkbar wrote:Aren't the old Danelectro's are like 22" or something?
I believe that's just the 1448 but I'm very far from an expert on vintage Dano's.

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:48 pm
by STABxYOU
robroe wrote:the 24" omar ibanez guitar has a neck on it that feels exactly like a super sonic neck.
im sure they used his old black supersonic as a template when they made this one
I'm not sure that's how I'd describe the neck feel, unless Supersonics have much flatter fretboards than other Fenders.

Re: Non-Fender short scales?

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 4:31 am
by DGW
Phil O'Keefe wrote:What else is out there in the 24" scale range besides the usual Fender suspects? I know about Jags, MM's Mustangs, Broncos, Duo Sonics, Jagmasters, etc.... but does anyone else make anything in the 24" scale range?

I also know about 24.75" scale lengths too, and even own a few - Les Paul, Casino, Rickenbacker 610... but I'm wondering if anyone other than Fender ever made 24" scale stuff... :?
Durango Guitar Works Contender 24"Image

Re: Non-Fender short scales?

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 3:41 pm
by dezb1
DGW wrote:
Phil O'Keefe wrote:What else is out there in the 24" scale range besides the usual Fender suspects? I know about Jags, MM's Mustangs, Broncos, Duo Sonics, Jagmasters, etc.... but does anyone else make anything in the 24" scale range?

I also know about 24.75" scale lengths too, and even own a few - Les Paul, Casino, Rickenbacker 610... but I'm wondering if anyone other than Fender ever made 24" scale stuff... :?
Durango Guitar Works Contender 24"

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Someone ban this guy, I’m sick of looking at this guitar!

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 3:45 pm
by Ankhanu
Haha, you did what I thought of doin.

Getting sick of the self-promotion without actually giving anything to the community. Fuck that shit.

Posted: Tue May 25, 2010 5:05 pm
by hotrodperlmutter
i'm just getting sick of the guitar. it's like an sx mini strat with humbuckers getting eric clapton signature single coil promotion.