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Really Fender, you couldn't come up with a unique name (you know, one not already used recently by Marshall) for your new amps that probably sound like ass?

New Fender Vintage Modified Series Amps

band master doesn't sound like ass. at all.

I just laugh because they are more expensive than most of the amps they are replicating. You can find silverface amps all over the place for cheaper than you can buy one of these.

yeah but silverface don't have dsp modelling ... and silverfaces are not cheaper anywhere outside north america. I would have cared if they had a spring reverb.

A silverface bandmaster would probably cost around $500, not exactly cheaper than the VM stuff. Who wants dsp modelling when you can have the real shebang. Sure they have delay and chorus and I'm sure a few other things but who wants that stuff in an amp anyways. Buy an amp that's an amp at heart and a POD later. I'll take a 40 year old fender please.

Dear Amp Manufacturers

I don't want digital effects in my amp. I will look after the effects. You look after the amplification. That's the deal.

Thanks,
Me.

Yeah, in a perfect world we're all fonzie-cool and oprah-rich from the get-go, but meanwhile in Narnia:

Dear Amp Manufacturers

I am 12-16 years old, living off my parents and am thinking of buying 16 tube amps and all the most well-known effects pedals so I can figure out what kind of sound suits the style of my particular garage-op covers band. I'd like to see you fuck with that logic.

Thanks,
average noob guitarist

paul you crack my shit up, son. erryday, like.

Damn that was coooooold blooded!

It's part of the right of passage trying to get a decent sound from junk. You save up, buy a pedal and spend the next year learning every possible sound variation you can get from your kit using it. These all singing DSP amps are all very well and good but do they give people starting out too much too soon???

There are very good reasons why Paul_ won the funniest poster award for three years running or something.

This is one of them.

the thing is (at least here in the states), I would opt for a line 6 for a beginner who wanted to be able to experiment with different sounds. Or I would look for a used cyber amp from fender as they go pretty cheap. No way I woul pay that much for those amps though.

mickie08 wrote:the thing is (at least here in the states), I would opt for a line 6 for a beginner who wanted to be able to experiment with different sounds. Or I would look for a used cyber amp from fender as they go pretty cheap. No way I woul pay that much for those amps though.

That said, in a year or two they may be great used deals, who knows?

I seriously wish that amp manufacturers would stop putting effects in amps. Reverb, yeah, tremolo, maybe.

Most people who buy those amps will be paying for stuff they don’t want and wont use.

As many will observe Fender amps are expensive in the UK, even (especially) the old silverfaces, so it's annoying for people like myself who just want a decent Fender clean sound with no bells and whistles without paying a fortune. Think about the costs they could cut if they got rid of the effects and drive channel and offered a bog standard one channel Fender tube amp that cut a few corners like these ones probably do. Fuck, why not chuck in a real reverb tank as they're only £25.

My point is, I've got nothing against the VM series, it just seems Fender are missing a trick not bringing out a basic uncomplicated cost-effective tube amp as well as this digitally enhanced "appeal to indecisive people" line. Then people like myself might contemplate buying first hand instead of keeping the used Fender market booming. I'm sure they'd sell like hot cakes. They have all the plans, all the schematics, all the knowledge and modern manufacturing processes to do it but each new line seems to move further away from this.

Sorry, rant over - you can tell I've been looking to buy a Fender amp recently.