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Which Twin Has The Toni?
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 12:51 am
by westtexasred
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 12:55 am
by Haze
compare? Sure, they LOOK the same, but what else?
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:09 am
by serfx
video demos?
mind you i would love and audio or video demo of every guitar that goes through the westtexasred home
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:21 am
by Nick
That thing is a beaut man...looking forward to a comparison review of sorts....
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:31 am
by westtexasred
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:43 am
by Nick
does it feel like the real Gibson in your hands? how heavy is it?
and dude are those strings wrapped over the tailpiece? wtf
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 3:43 am
by westtexasred
Nick wrote:does it feel like the real Gibson in your hands? how heavy is it?
and dude are those strings wrapped over the tailpiece? wtf
Haha yeah,well it needs new strings and a setup.It's not a real Gibson but it is a pretty nice copy for the money($250).It has a nice neck with a '59 style profile.the fret board is ebony like a really custom but the inlays aren't as nice as the ones on a real Custom. The pickups are ok not great. For my use they are ok.Oh one other thing,it is lighter than a Gibson,it weighs 8.4 lbs.

Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 5:03 am
by gaybear
Haze wrote:compare? Sure, they LOOK the same, but what else?
gaybear wrote:i used to have one for a long time and loved it. my co guitarist had a 70'2 gibson and they were pretty much identical playing wise, 'cept maybe the pickups.
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 8:12 am
by benecol
Nick wrote:and dude are those strings wrapped over the tailpiece? wtf
It's called top-wrapping the bridge - it's what people sometimes do on tuneomatic bridges sometimes, can make for a different playing feel. Didn't do much for me, but some people swear by it.
WTR, this has been the first of your guitar purchases where I've thought "Why bother?" since you've got an original, but Samicks are ten-a-penny over here.
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 11:22 am
by Gabriel
benecol wrote:Nick wrote:and dude are those strings wrapped over the tailpiece? wtf
some people swear by it.
Like me

, for me it feels a little slinkier and you get better coupling from the bridge as its really tight to the body. So you get a very small increase of sustain.
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 11:47 am
by ultratwin
benecol wrote:Samicks are ten-a-penny over here.
They're still made here in Korea, except that they're now under the Dexter name. Some of the cheaper models are made in Vietnam, but the MIK ones I've played in shops have been excellent.
LINK
Posted: Sat May 29, 2010 6:51 pm
by pumpkin
Man, I really like that even though you buy allot of high end gear you still get gay excited over the cheap and cheerful stuff.
So I dunno about the guitars but you got the toni
Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 4:58 am
by westtexasred
Ha ha thanks.I was just interested in this guitar because there is not much information on the internet about the pre artist Samick guitars. I curious about the origin of the head stock design inlay design. Did they steal it from Burney?
The design on the headstock kinda looks like the one on my Samick. Maybe Samick stole it from Burney?

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Hondo used that design to so I don't know where it originated. Did Samick make any Hondos?

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 8:10 pm
by westtexasred
I found the japanese webpage with info and photos of
the Samick Les Paul Custom(Link) I remember seeing this webpage a couple of years ago.That is why I had to get it when I saw it at my friends shop.
My Samick
I found the Samick link on this geocities fan page of
cool japanese and asian copy guitars (Link)
One difference I did notice is that my Samick has a different logo on the headstock


Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 10:36 pm
by Mages
there's still a japanese geocities? wtf?
I think the inlay similarities were just an easy way to use a design that's vaguely similar to the gibson. the Burny is made by fujigen, the Hondo by matsumoku and the Samick by cort. so they're not really related. cort commonly do that thinner style headstock (like on epiphones).
Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 11:53 pm
by westtexasred
Mages wrote:there's still a japanese geocities? wtf?
I think the inlay similarities were just an easy way to use a design that's vaguely similar to the gibson. the Burny is made by fujigen, the Hondo by matsumoku and the Samick by cort. so they're not really related. cort commonly do that thinner style headstock (like on epiphones).
I have read that Samick built some guitars for Hondo
(Link)
"Samick formed a joint venture with Texas-based International Music Company (also known as the Hondo Guitar Company). The new company introduced modern U.S. production methods to the Korean market, while taking advantage of the low-wage level in Korea to offer inexpensive, entry-level guitars.
Hondo initially produced a line of classical and folk guitars before adding its first electric guitars in 1972. By 1974, the company's electric guitars had achieved a certain level of quality, and Hondo became one of the largest-selling entry-level brands by the mid-1970s. Hondo added a variety of instruments to its line during the 1970s, including banjos, while continuing to make product improvements. By the end of that decade, Hondo was selling nearly 800,000 instruments per year before fading out in the 1980s. "
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:21 am
by Mages
oh ok, cool. they may have had different factories at different times. I think the 70s ones were matsumoku. I know other companies have switched around factories at times. fender japan is a well known example and I know there are some korean built (cort) grecos from 80s.
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:44 pm
by westtexasred
Yeah,I had thought the were all from Japan too.
I got a new case for my guitar. It was a $20 upgrade but well worth it I think.

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:48 am
by westtexasred