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Do you think you would be achievable to replicate similar tones from a standard big muff pi... ? (or Rams head if I win the lottery ?)

@ 5.59
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also track 'Get out of this' @ 3.44 . Can't find video... but prob one of my favourite solos ever.

I'm always using Jag and classic 30, & would like to give fuzz another chance.

I know he uses the Big Muff but I think he also has a Univox Super Fuzz if memory serves me correct.

....and a fuck load of massive marshalls

you need something more fuzz face style than big muff style for than. GET A SHIVA!!

chisa wrote:....and a fuck load of massive marshalls

thats right... lol

othomas2 wrote:(or Rams head if I win the lottery ?)

Ask Mike to make you one. There's no mojo in old parts or flimsy boxes.

One of their B-sides from the 'Feel the Pain' single was a version of 'Get Out of This' that was entirely solo, you should track down a copy - I would email or something but I have it on vinyl.

Over on Offset Guitars I like someone posted a photo of his, I think, current pedalboard - http://www.offsetguitars.com/forums/vie ... 11&t=35490

Yeah, it doesn't sound like there's too much Muff going on in that solo, way too much midrange. That's the thing about trying to emulate a studio track; god knows what gear was actually used on the session.

That was a sweet solo. I haven't really heard any of their newer albums... or really many of their older albums for that matter.

Pretty neat sound though - never knew he used all those pedals as I thought he really just stuck with fuzz sounds.

- Steve

Rayjaysonic wrote:I know he uses the Big Muff but I think he also has a Univox Super Fuzz if memory serves me correct.

Ah, the Univox... On certain settings, this is the sound I have in my head regardless of the Dino track. Cheers for that. Gonna try hunt out a copy of some kind.

Also, thanks for everyone elses input too...

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The Behringer SF300 is a copy of the Univox incidentally, if you're looking for a cheap starting point to see how it sounds with your gear.

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That thing looks awesome.

chisa wrote:....and a fuck load of massive marshalls

Current Dino albums are small Fender and Vox amps. Leads are mainly Tele and rhythm is mainly Gibsons with P90s.

great song great solo... no idea what pedal it is!

Doog wrote:The Behringer SF300 is a copy of the Univox incidentally, if you're looking for a cheap starting point to see how it sounds with your gear.

My mistake- it's a copy of the Boss FZ-2, which is kinda based on the Univox Super Fuzz.

timhulio wrote:

othomas2 wrote:(or Rams head if I win the lottery ?)

Ask Mike to make you one. There's no mojo in old parts or flimsy boxes.

I've meant to start advertising the Ram's head version on my website in a Purple Box actually, there's just some minor tweaks to the circuit - they all do sound subtley different though.

I'll ask benecol to make me a decal for it when he's back from camping.
http://www.pisotones.com/BigMuffPi/psst ... rsions.htm

The Ram's head itself uses PNP transistors and is positive ground, so I'd probably make the violet Ram's head version. Pedals that can't be daisy chained are a pain in the arse.

I need to finally get around to boxing up an IC version aswell from my layout (Silver) but I'm just so busy at the moment.

That GC rig is a bit out of date. The sound you are talking about is way more simple than that.
I got down the front and tried to figure out what he was on with last time i saw Dino and looked to me he just switched to the second stack for solo's, a blazing stack may i add. I dont think he switched the Big Muff off either.

Try a Tubescreamer after the Big Muff, thats the closest sound i've gotten to it. It boosts the clarity and midrange massively with a lot of sustain. I know Mascis has a shitload of them 'Rams Head' Muffs but i found the black russian got me closer than a new nyc model.

He also has his action high on the guitar with heavy gauge strings, this will effect the tone a lot.

Mike wrote:I'll ask benecol to make me a decal for it when he's back from camping.

I'm back.

Owen, I've got a Ram's head clone you can borrow if you want. I've obsessed over Mascis's tonezzzz for years - I thought I heard one our students nailing his sound in the studio a while back, and ran in fully ready to plunder his gear secrets, only to find him playing the electric violin. Fuck.

My favourite Mascis-aping trick is the fuzz-wah-distortion sandwich - plumb in all three pedals and mess with the wah to pick out frequencies, feedback and odd cadences. Lovely.

S. Thompson wrote:That was a sweet solo. I haven't really heard any of their newer albums... or really many of their older albums for that matter.

Pretty neat sound though - never knew he used all those pedals as I thought he really just stuck with fuzz sounds.

- Steve

Steve,
I've got the whole Dino Jr. Discography for you to borrow at any time. You know where I live ...