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Hey dudes, I'm thinking of getting a basic digital delay somewhere down the line for live use. My EHX SMMWH, while brilliant, isn't ideal for live use for me; big footprint, too many dials and the BLEND dial volume drop make it slightly difficult to get on with. Still love its sounds, though. Long story short..

Are you a bad enough dude to recommend me a supersweet delay pedal, based around my criteria??

• VERY clean/digital repeats, so much so it's almost a sampler/looper
• Infinite repeats with no oscillation with the feedback/repeat control cranked
• No trails when the pedal is bypassed
• A level control allowing the delay to be at unity with the dry signal
• Runs off standard 9v

Interested to hear your thoughts, y'all!

DD-6 pretty much covers all bases except oscillation but it will go on for a very very very long time before it starts to oscillate.

A fine pedal, I used to own one, but it has teh trails.

Thanks though mate, I do miss mine, especially the Hold feature stuttery goodness to be had.

The DD3 doesn't have trails and is a pretty close match, but I'm always interested to hear about any more interesting boxes out there.

I miss my DD-6 too, it's sadly still in bits from teh fat man incident.

I also admire the DD-3 alot. My admiration increased when I saw the Freddy-demo.

Yeah the DD3 does everything you said, I think. It doesn't really oscillate with the feedback on full, but it does gradually get louder, I dunno if that's an issue?

Marshall Echohead sounds like what you're looking for. The Hi-Fi mode has great clean repeats and it doesn't oscillate on any settings.

Had my eye on a TC Electronics Nova Repeater for a while now. That should fit the bill. Clean as a whistle (When you want it to be) and it won't self-oscillate at any setting. If you want to step up in features the Nova Delay has presets which is handy but for quite a bit more dosh, obviously.

Freakshow effects Digilog?

I second the TC Electronics.

What about that boss thing that is 2 pedals.. like a DD-3, tenfold.

EDIT: Gigadelay.

Nova Repeater/Delay
does it allll except run off a 9v. They're spec'd to run at 12v but a hearty 9v power bank [300ma minimum] will run them just fine. Due to that neither of them have a 9v battery compartment

I'm in the DD-3 camp when it comes to a no bullshit clean delay. Its been the industry standard for many years for a reason.

I had an Arion DDS-4 once that seemed like it might be something you'd like if the footprint isn't too big for you (smaller than the memory man, but slightly wider than a boss). It even had a sample/looper mode with a trigger input.

EDIT: This is Nick, using Lauren's computer.

Arion made decent stuff, never tried the Delay but they seem to rouse plenty of interest on ebay.

I can highly recommend the Marshall Echohead, in my opinion the sounds are far better than a Boss DD3 of which I have had 2 in the past. On delay sounds with high feedback the Boss is a bit uncontrollable and will just keep getting louder and louder whereas the Echohead is far more controllable which is what I was partticularly looking for when I bought it. Plusses for the Echohead are also that it has a load of delay modes, is dirt cheap and can use an external tap tempo. It also has 2 outputs one which will add trails when bypassed and one which won't.

Now, I've had two, and one would do the infinite repeats thing and one wouldn't (quite), although there may have been trimpots inside, but: what you want is a DE7, young man - time to see what all the fuss is about.

I'll have to have a look at a DE7 when I'm on the hunt for a delay; I've just got a Ibanez TL5 Tremolo and I can't honestly imagine a better wobble-stutter.

benecol wrote:Now, I've had two, and one would do the infinite repeats thing and one wouldn't (quite), although there may have been trimpots inside, but: what you want is a DE7, young man - time to see what all the fuss is about.

I looked into one of these a few years ago actually, but the stories of broken footswitches within months of ownership don't exactly endear me to it.. plus it's pretty oscillate-y really, and going SCREEEEEEEEEEEEE is only interesting for so many years.

I had an Echohead years ago too (sold to MikeG), I didn't quite get on with it because even on the hi-fi mode, the delays definitely had some high end drop-off, voiding it for what I wanted to use it for.

Damn Boss and their sterile, unfeeling, but so appealing digital delays. I think they set them up so they juuuuuust about start to oscillate/get increasingly louder, but if you're careful, you can just about dial it back to the right spot. That was the case with my DD-6, if memory serves.

The footswitches were fine on mine (owned a PM-7 from the same range, too). These weren't that oscillate-y in digital mode at all.

Buy one.

Gig them a lot, didya?

I had two toddlers working as my effects tweakers, which I would argue dishes out a similar amount of punishment.

*flicks V's*