ShortScale.org

i play a mixture of crust punk and doom. i play through a 62 bassman 100 head, with a turbo rat dist pedal. this alone is not cutting it. i need a dist that is super trashy but has a lot of eq control. also some sort of octave pedal, preferably with octave up and down. i`d prefer to spend less than 200, any help?

Have a look at the Dwarfcraft Robot Devil. Ends on here has one and loves it for Doom. I think its under $200 aswell.

Edit: http://guitars.musiciansfriend.com/product/Dwarfcraft-Robot-Devil-Fuzz-Guitar-Effects-Pedal?sku=584748

Ask Mike to make you a Toecutter; I want one a lot.

my experience is a tubescremer into a rat can give you a killer thash metal tone. Try a cheap TS pedal.
Also big muffs (especially green russian) are great for doom.
Or use a massive clean boost into your bassman for Doom overdive / sag.
Best octave up and down is the POG I believe.
Foxrox makes a killer one but its very expensive.

Seriously try the TS into the rat....it'll give you lots of control too since there are 2 gain stages to balance out. I like the Rat's gain at about 11 o'clock and the TS with gain at about 9 o'clock and volume a little boosted. Set tone controls to taste on both.

yeah i had like an 81 tube screamer, was cool for what it was but i don't think it'd help this tone. it's sounding like i'm going to ditch the rat and go with running a big muff and the dwarfcraft, although that toecutter does sound awesome. i'm just scared of dwarfcraft pedals, like i'm going to get one and it won't sound right due to my stupidity.

Best thing for doom is to just tune down real low to like c or below. Tuned low with any dirt pedal generally sounds good, however it can only sound better with the right one like a dwarfcraft or that toecutter which sounded great.

i already have the sound itself, i mean i have a 7" done that's just lacking drums. i tune to c sharp, but then again it's not straight ahead doom. i'm just trying to figure out what gear i need to get the recording done and have it sound good. i figure i'll use whatever i get to record it with when i play out with the band.

oppinions on the metal muff? i've heard mostly good but a few bad things and i know shortscale speaks truth. i'm almost set on picking one up to replace the rat for the crustier parts and then getting a robot devil for the extra layer of fuzz to bring teh doomz

Pretty meh pedal - isn't as good as a regular muff, and unsuitable for what you're after. Get a Boss FZ2 instead.

First you need the doom in your heart. Only then will it come through your amp.

slaon was plying the heaviest shit i have ever heard with a dano baratone plugged straight into a new bassman RI 4x10 with it cranked

These threads make me lolz.
I've never seen or played with a Doom band thats used anything other than simple stuff like a Boss DS-2, MT-2, Rat or a Big Muff if your lucky. Crust Punk the same, my mate was the guitarist in Intense Degree and all he ever used was a DS-1.
Its more about tuning and the attitude in your approach to playing.

ISHMAEL tune to A i think, might even be G lol. We played with them a few times and their sounds rattles your skull

get a big muff, they still sound awesome. in the end, what you play is what matters the most, not how it sounds.

I had a metal muff. It was useless. Terrible pedal. It's one of the few times I've bought a pedal without having played it or heard demos, maybe the only time, and I'd be reluctant to do it again.

How about a way huge fat sandwich? It has a load of eq controls inside and outside of the pedal and tons of didtortion on tap. Coincidentally i'm also selling one.

The cork sniffers in these kind of bands tend to be more concerned on the Amp Head they use than pedals. I've seen plenty a Matamp and DS-1 together. Old news though is'nt it?.. no pedal can substitute the sound of a quality amp.

Fran wrote:The cork sniffers in these kind of bands tend to be more concerned on the Amp Head they use than pedals.

+1

I read somewhere that electric wizard just use cranked marshalls.

Not particuraly useful information I know.

I think EW use any cranked tube amps with Boss FZ-2s. Although I suppose Marshalls could come under cranked tube amps.

benecol wrote:Ask Mike to make you a Toecutter; I want one a lot.

i haqve some of those transistors. i should build one of these

Freddy V-C wrote:I think EW use any cranked tube amps with Boss FZ-2s. Although I suppose Marshalls could come under cranked tube amps.

I just looked at their myspace biography, I can't think where I got marshall from

ELECTRIC WIZARD is the heaviest band in the world. The oblivion and ecstasy of crushing doom and high grade marijuana, a sonic aural trip far, far away from this world, where only cyclopean walls of crackling vintage valve amplifiers set to the full overdrive and primal ritualistic beats can wash away all the filth and drudgery of everyday life. Our music is DoomMetal, the only true definition. We toll the bell of hell, our sound is a crushing behemoth of funeral march psychedelia. Violent, bleak and ritualistic, we bow to the black altar of the RIFF. We do not rock, we kill!

But yeah, cranked tube amp and fz-2 seems most likely.