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proper name for reversed power chords? kinda not really

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:20 pm
by robroe
a couple weeks ago i discovered that if you invert your index finger and ring finger on a D chord it makes a kind of dissonant E minor droney chord.

in other words

D
x
5
7
x
x
x

to this

E minor?
x
7
5
x
x
x

furthermore if you go up a half step with your ring finger and put your middle finger down in natural postion it makes kind of a weird F sounding chord

F?
x
8
7
x
x
x


then you can keep alternating between the two positions and slide right the neck.

anyone got a name for this shit?

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:33 pm
by blacktaxi
your second chord is kind of E7, which sounds more like a minor chord without the third.

the third chord you mentioned is in most cases an F (major).

but, given that you use only two notes for each of these, depending on context they can be completely different chords, because just two notes can not give full definition of a chord. percieved harmony will depend on what notes are played on other instruments.

btw, i think these are called not chords but intervals.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:36 pm
by Bacchus
Those are minor thirds and major thirds. You might recognise the major third from the bottom of open G and C chords.

You know the way you can make an A major chord into an A minor chord by moving one of the notes lower down? That's the difference between a major third and a minor third.

Chords, are usually made up of a root note, or first, a third (major or minor) and a fifth. Powerchords get rid of the third leaving just the root and the fifth. Hence them being called fifth chords.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:39 pm
by Bacchus
blacktaxi wrote:your second chord is kind of E7, which sounds more like a minor chord without the third.
I'm not sure where you're getting confused here, but that's entirely not true.

blacktaxi wrote:btw, i think these are called not chords but intervals.
Interval describes the distance between any two notes, and is sort of a loose term that can be used all over the place, whether the two notes are in a chord, in a melody, or even just being talked about. A chord is when any two notes are being played at the same time.

Chords with three notes are usually called triads. Chords with two notes are usually called diads.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:55 pm
by blacktaxi
BacchusPaul wrote:
blacktaxi wrote:your second chord is kind of E7, which sounds more like a minor chord without the third.
I'm not sure where you're getting confused here, but that's entirely not true.
looked at rob's transcription once more, and you are right. somehow i saw that as Em7, mostly because i use it often

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:32 pm
by Doog
Why is your tab lefty? Weirdo.

Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:15 pm
by DanHeron
Yeah, as Paul said, major and minor 3rds.

I sometimes play an Amaj/min chord like (from low to high) X - 0 - 7 - 6/5 - X - X. Major/minot 3rd with the open A string for extra beef.

Or Emaj/minor like 0 - 7 - 6/5 - X - X - X.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:00 am
by BillClay
these are literally the only kinds of chords I ever play.

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 10:12 am
by DanHeron
I've started playing chords really high up the neck, with lots of open strings. Especially E and A:

E: 0 11 14 13 0 0

A: X 0 11 9 10 0

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 3:35 pm
by Bacchus
DanHeron wrote:I've started playing chords really high up the neck, with lots of open strings. Especially E and A:

E: 0 11 14 13 0 0

A: X 0 11 9 10 0
I really like playing C-shape chords up the octave because of the beating you can get with the intonation being slightly out. Actually, I like sliding that shape all over the place and have done for years. I never seem to get bored of it.

I don't like the look of that E chord, too many thirds. If it works, it works, mind.