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1967 Fender Coronado II

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:09 pm
by James
The weather in Wisconsin has been pretty miserable so far so I haven't been able to get the poncey 'outside in the sunlight' photos. If it stays like this there's a tripod here and I'll take some decent indoor ones.

When I first played it the action was very high, the strings may well have been the originals and I was worried it might need at least a partial refret (binding troubles oh noes). Lucikly a lot of the buzzing was coming from the strings not quite clearing the neck pickup. There's no way to lower the pickup other than removing the black plastic it sits on, so I had to shim the neck. You can see the angle of the tan line is already quite steep. When I took it off it already had five things in there. The small plastic piece you can see in the neck pocket photo, a slightly thicker piece of the same, and then three of the original Fender paper ones (two red one grey) I added a bit to the whole pocket to raise the whole thing and then a little extra to the end to tilt it more. Not much of a difference overall but enough to clear the pickup with lower action. It's pretty good now but I need to spend some time setting up the bridge to get it to play well. After the shimming the frets don't seem too bad at all. They're fairly low, as you'd expect for a 40+ year old guitar that looks and feels like it's been played a lot but there are no obvious dead spots and they've been levelled/stoned at least somewhat recently.

What was odd is that under the pickguard it's more green than the rest of the body. Even under the pickups that's the case. The only places I could find original colour were under the neck plate, in the neck pocket and under the small piece the tailpiece attaches to. Although there's a really nice area where your forearm rests as you play it that the clearcoat is worn away to give it a darker blue colour. Almost like a hint of purple burst. The colour is absolutely stunning, though. It's near green under yellow house lights, as it is in the lacquer checking photo of the low E horn under standard light and just a beautifully thin and glassy.

The neck has all that vintage Fender goodness. It's fairly similar to Mike's Jaguar in terms of the feel of the materials (back of the neck, binding, fretboard and frets). I can't describe the thickness in comparison to other Fenders but it seems to me it has that 60s Fender feel in spades. The blocks have a very '3D' look and they'd discoloured unevenly. Some are a slightly peachy off white and some still fairly white. Maybe that means some are replacements but they look good for sure.

The bridge has a glued down baseplate but I think other than that it's all original. A few screws have the cross rounded out though they still work, and one pickguard mounting screw is missing. The bridge has a serial number on the underside but I haven't looked into that at all yet.

I'm going to try stringing it with some flatwound strings, and will try and get it set up to 'play like buttah' then, but for now I'm happy with it. With a little more work it's going to be fantastic.
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And these are ones I've likely posted before as they're sat on my photobucket account. It looks like I don't have any of the original ebay photos saved online but they weren't that great at all.
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:23 pm
by taylornutt
That is lovely. I have never had the chance to play a Coronado II, but I still would love to get one one day.

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:04 pm
by NickS
Very nice, James!

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 4:15 pm
by kim
hothothotttttt

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:06 pm
by Pacafeliz
HOH
LEE
SHIT
!!!

wonderful...

wow...
there's a sunburst '66 FS here, locally. dude wants $1800 w/o case. fuck off.

Pat.

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:36 pm
by Bacchus
Beautiful.

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:54 pm
by stewart
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i took a photo of mine where the heel meets the body, it might give you a reference as to what it needs to be. you can actually just see the top of the date stamp peeking out on mine, but i suppose they were applied fairly randomly.

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speaking of date stamps:

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we be twinsies!

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:09 pm
by stewart
also- how's the balance with the small tailpiece? is it neck heavy?

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:26 pm
by Thom
Such a nice guitar James.

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:35 pm
by aen
stewart wrote:also- how's the balance with the small tailpiece? is it neck heavy?
Mine is, and there's more metal on it's ass. HOWEVER, its not a huge problem, it tends to stay put as I use my left hand to fret notes and can easily support the weight of the neck.

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:44 pm
by crofty
gorgeous. mind if i ask how much you paid?

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:49 pm
by benecol
That's a lovely colour James - bet you're glad to finally get your hands on it. Is there no height adjustment on the pickups?

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 6:50 pm
by paul_
Man, that's a nice one James.

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:12 pm
by stewart
aen wrote:
stewart wrote:also- how's the balance with the small tailpiece? is it neck heavy?
Mine is, and there's more metal on it's ass. HOWEVER, its not a huge problem, it tends to stay put as I use my left hand to fret notes and can easily support the weight of the neck.
I think the bigsby on mine balances it out quite nicely, the triangular trem on yours looks cool though and is probably a bit more functional generally (at a guess!)

Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:44 pm
by soundofseventythree
Awesome guitar!!! :!:

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:17 am
by James
stewart wrote:i took a photo of mine where the heel meets the body, it might give you a reference as to what it needs to be. you can actually just see the top of the date stamp peeking out on mine, but i suppose they were applied fairly randomly.
Mine's pretty much on the limit of the date stamp. It's a little above the tan line. Tomorrow I'm going to try and find an allen key that fits the grub screws and do the bridge setup.
stewart wrote:also- how's the balance with the small tailpiece? is it neck heavy?
I only tried it with a suede strap which holds the guitar a lot even if the balance is off so I can't tell yet. The body end does feel very light, though, so I imagine it is a bit neck heavy but not in an awkward way. Mostly I've been playing it sat down so far so I'm not really sure. The suede strap is set at the height I was playing bass with so it's too high for guitar, but the colour doesn't go so I'll probably not bother adjusting the height and just buy a different strap. I wanted to get another Couch one but I'm a bit hesitant to get a vinyl one with the nitro (I assume it's nitro).

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:19 am
by James
crofty wrote:gorgeous. mind if i ask how much you paid?
I'm pretty sure I got a great deal on it - $1150/£780, for LPB that seems a steal.

It was in dire need of a setup but it seems like all is well.

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:23 am
by James
benecol wrote:Is there no height adjustment on the pickups?
The two screws literally just screw the pickup to the guitar. The metal ring around the edge and the metal casing on the pickup are all one piece. The only height adjustment is by the pole pieces which are incredibly sensitive. I just gave it it's first proper go through an amp and the low E was loud enough that I was wondering if somehow the pickup was broke for the rest of the strings. Once i set the bridge up (or give up and buy a mustang bridge) I'll have to have a play with that. One thing that worries me though is the neck pickup is much louder than the bridge. I'm thinking maybe the only way to balance them is to alter the neck angle to be a little less steep and bring the strings closer to the bridge pickup.

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:30 am
by rodvonbon
James wrote:(or give up and buy a mustang bridge)
I've got a Mustang bridge from '65 that have the bottom of the posts drilled out. It's useless to me, but might be perfect for this, if you want it.

*edit* I just checked and I just have the bridge plate left. I must have put the saddles on my Jaguar.

LPB and checkered binding is my favorite color combo on the Coronado and this one is a beauty. Congrats James.

Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:45 am
by stewart
The bridge is essentially a jag/jazz one on TOM style wheels. This means the base plate is mounted differently, so i reckon without completely changing the bridge the next best option would be dropping mustang saddles into the existing assembly.