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Stringing a bloody jaguar.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:03 pm
by IroniaSudby
Okay, so im stringing this thing and have no idea what the fuck im not doing. I checked
Hurbs video but i cant see shit in it so if anyone can help me out on how to string this fucker, id
appreciate it.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:10 pm
by stewart
Is this your first time stringing a guitar?

Put string through hole in tailpiece. Cut end of string 2" longer than the tuning peg you want. Put string in hole. Tighten.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:16 pm
by IroniaSudby
I just got it after i typed that. This always happens when i get pissy.
Yeah its my first time.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:21 pm
by stewart
Knowing where to cut the strings for vintage style pegs can be a bit of a wtf? at first, there's a guide on the support section of the fender website if you can't find one on here (there are definitely a couple of diagrams kicking around).

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:49 pm
by IroniaSudby
Yeah i was confused at first. I finally got it done now and someone told me to wait till tomorrow
to tune it, otherwise its a nightmare. Something about stretching the strings?

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:50 pm
by paul_
I use a distance of 2 tuning pegs to determine where to cut the string on vintage style tuners, that's almost 2 inches. So for the A string you pull the string a little taut and cut it at the G tuner, and so on (having to estimate for the b and e but I usually leave those a bit longer anyway for a few more peg winds).

Also on Jaguars and other guitars with floating trems I usually change one string at a time to somewhat retain the old tension on the tailpiece the whole time so you don't have to set-up from scratch.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:45 am
by SKC Willie
paul_ wrote:I use a distance of 2 tuning pegs to determine where to cut the string on vintage style tuners.

That is exactly that way to do it. And you don't need to wait to tune it. Get your tuner, tune it up. Play it a little doing lots of bends on every string. Tune and repeat until the guitar holds tune.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 2:00 am
by IroniaSudby
Well i tuned it, Went from the stock japanese fender strings that the guitar came with to D Addario 10-52.

I must say, i feel like something is lost. I feel as if my sound has become generic somehow. I dont know
if this stuff needs time to settle in or something. Very weird.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:18 am
by Ankhanu
paul_ wrote:I use a distance of 2 tuning pegs to determine where to cut the string on vintage style tuners, that's almost 2 inches. So for the A string you pull the string a little taut and cut it at the G tuner, and so on (having to estimate for the b and e but I usually leave those a bit longer anyway for a few more peg winds).

Also on Jaguars and other guitars with floating trems I usually change one string at a time to somewhat retain the old tension on the tailpiece the whole time so you don't have to set-up from scratch.
This is exactly what I do, both the 2-pegs and the one string at a time thing. Makes set up a breeze.
IroniaSudby wrote:Well i tuned it, Went from the stock japanese fender strings that the guitar came with to D Addario 10-52.

I must say, i feel like something is lost. I feel as if my sound has become generic somehow. I dont know
if this stuff needs time to settle in or something. Very weird.
That is kinda weird. Most of them ship with 0.009s on them, which is really way too light for the Jaguar, and can be a big source of headache with the bridge. Switching up to 0.010s shouldn't really change much. Really, it should be set up with 0.011s or heavier for best performance. However, this is mostly based on setup and design... the string gauge, especially 9s to 10s, shouldn't really affect the tone of the guitar that much.

What brand are the strings?

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:34 am
by Stuart
D'addario but again don't think it makes too much difference...

How long had you been using the old ones? In my poor under-grad days I often play strings until they were as dead as dead. Suddenly going from grimy old strings to fresh ones will make quite a bit of difference in sound. The description as 'generic' doesn't conjure up anything sonically for me but they will probably sound bright almost metallic as first. In my experience this wears off pretty quickly and the strings sound 'normal' for quite a while before they start to die again.

That's just my experience anyway. some rock stars change strings before every set, I like mine played in a bit.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:41 am
by SKC Willie
The sound will change at first, for sure.


But in reality, you won't be able to hear the difference between strings brands once they're broken in a little.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:29 am
by George
I match the string slack to two tuning pegs after the one I'm winding. B and e take a bit of estimation. I think that's what the Fender guide say.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:17 am
by gaybear
From My Mexican friend:
If you find a bloody jaguar, make sure it's dead. But from a distance. throw some shit at it.
If it doesn't move, then you can probably make some strings out of it's guts.
Being rare, you can probably sell these guts to Republican assholes desperate for an identity.
If not, you can construct a shelter.
the shelter will do you no good.
de nada

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:20 am
by stewart
going from stock 9s or whatever to a 52 bottom is going to sound and feel pretty different; especially if you're, shall we say, new to the guitar. i'd go for a lesser increment, in this instance.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:22 am
by gaybear
stewart wrote:going from stock 9s or whatever to a 52 bottom is going to sound and feel pretty different; especially if you're, shall we say, new to the guitar. i'd go for a lesser increment, in this instance.

i'm pretty sure that's what i just said

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:23 am
by stewart
ah, sorry, i missed your post. right enough.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:25 am
by gaybear
you're a good man stewart brown

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:51 am
by Mike
I actually find restringing a Jaguar to be a really enjoyable experience.

One string at a time, listen to some music and have some red wine or coffee handy and just enjoy yourself. 2 string posts past the target.

Stay On Target.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:45 pm
by IroniaSudby
Stuart wrote:D'addario but again don't think it makes too much difference...

How long had you been using the old ones? In my poor under-grad days I often play strings until they were as dead as dead. Suddenly going from grimy old strings to fresh ones will make quite a bit of difference in sound. The description as 'generic' doesn't conjure up anything sonically for me but they will probably sound bright almost metallic as first. In my experience this wears off pretty quickly and the strings sound 'normal' for quite a while before they start to die again.

That's just my experience anyway. some rock stars change strings before every set, I like mine played in a bit.
Thats how it is for me now. A bit metallic now. I dont like to change strings for a while so i guess
i just gotta play it and eventually ill get it down.

Once i got the stringing down past the A. I found a sense of actually being
a musician. It was oddly gratifying.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:15 pm
by Ankhanu
Mike wrote:Stay On Target.
It's no good, I can't maneuver!