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Tuner pedals! I see a lot of people use them at the END of their chain, after modulation, delay and reverb pedals. WHY DO THIS! If you want to tune your guitar, you have to turn off all pedals that would change the pitch off like modulation or a self oscilating fuzz. AND you would have to turn off pedals that change the time of the signal such as delays and reverbs. Why tune a note thats being delayed? Am confuse! Stick it in the front that way you don't have to turn off pedals in order to properly tune.
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Buffer boost at the end if it's a Boss TU-2 type?
I just leave it out of the chain and re-tune between songs.

I run the Boss TU-2 second after my Boss PW-10 Wah, but it doesn't affect the signal if you turn the gain control off. The only reason I do that is because it fits better on the pedal board that way. If I didn't have the wah, the tuner would be first in the change.

I have never understood why people don't put the tuner first. Pedal order does matter.

I'm with you on this, but handle it in a slightly different way.

With my "heavy" set, I'll run a true bypass AB-box first that can switch to the tuner when needed (as shown in the messy setup below). The rest is comp-wah-OD-OD-Dist-trem-delay-volume, and though I could certainly put the TU-2 up front either before or after the comp, it probably wouldn't matter much. The important thing is that I got the tuner up front, and good buffers running all the way to the volume pedal, which can easily cut everything off for silence on demand, regardless of what's engaged.






A simple setup with TU-2 up front, from a good while back:

I like having a mute at the end. Besides, my Diamond Compressor is always on at the start of the chain anyway so there's a buffer there. I thought it would be good to have another buffer at the end. Hence, the TU-2.

It's so much easier just to have a guitar that never goes out of tune.

Indeed, having a mute and end of chain buffer is very useful. Just switch off your modulation when tuning between songs. That's easy for me to say because I don't run a shit ton of pedals.

if you have the tuner at the end and something fucks up it's the easiest way to check your signal is going through all your pedals or not. so you know that the problem is after the tuner.

see here for an example of when it isn't always best at the start of the chain:

http://www.shortscale.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37435

I used to do this, but it was in a band when I'd generally have only two pedals on at once, so easily switched off to go into TUNE MODE. It was handy because it'd kill all the noise from distortion pedals; generally useful if you're at gig volumes.

But theeeen I discovered mystical buffered joy and my DT-10 is right at the start o' the chain now. The buffer is no way near as effective (in terms of high-end clarity) when it's at the end of your chain as at the start. I had some sweet samples in this thread, but the links are now dead, apparently.

Will wrote:It's so much easier just to have a guitar that never goes out of tune.

Fine if you're playing on your own and in your bedroom, less realistic once you've added 'other musicians' and 'travel' to the equation. And alternative tunings. And temperature changes. And ETC

Our bass player has his at the end of the chain but this is only because he ignored my advice to buy a decent tuner and he bought a shit Fender one off ebay that omits a horrible high pitched noise when engaged when it's at the start of his chain. When it's at the end it doesn't for some reason.