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The secret destroyer (or great destroyer)
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:55 pm
by endsjustifymeans
is a finicky machine, I can never seem to get the same sound dialed in twice and just reeling it in to a friendly ear fuck is sometimes problematic.
So how do you guys have your knobs set generally out of curiosity (great destroyer users welcome as well)?
One time I got an almost doomy fuzz with some sputtering noise trails as it decayed, but never found it again...
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:00 pm
by Haze
such is the way of.................................
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 8:04 pm
by endsjustifymeans
oddly, everything dimed is one of the settings I use the most since it's easy to remember and generally sounds about the same from one day to the next.
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:22 pm
by less_cunning
if its not working for you. sell it at a reasonably used price to someone whom can make proper use of it.
Re: The secret destroyer (or great destroyer)
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:49 pm
by Bacchus
endsjustifymeans wrote:friendly ear fuck
Sounds a lot to me like he's making proper use of it.
I've just spent about an hour dicking about with a bass into a Shiva into a DD-3. So good. I like the way that things sound different every time I go to it and that things even change as I play. It's nice having something that so completely magnifies the small differences in the way each note is approached and played. It completely counters all the classical training I had at the piano, where everything is controlled and practised until there are no variables.
I love it.
Is there anything in there that maybe changes with temperature? Anything that will sound different having been turned on for an hour than it would if it was turned on cold?
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:53 pm
by endsjustifymeans
less_cunning wrote:Hi, I'm a douche in case anyone forgot.
lulz
Re: The secret destroyer (or great destroyer)
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:04 pm
by endsjustifymeans
BacchusPaul wrote:endsjustifymeans wrote:friendly ear fuck
Sounds a lot to me like he's making proper use of it.
I've just spent about an hour dicking about with a bass into a Shiva into a DD-3. So good. I like the way that things sound different every time I go to it and that things even change as I play. It's nice having something that so completely magnifies the small differences in the way each note is approached and played. It completely counters all the classical training I had at the piano, where everything is controlled and practised until there are no variables.
I love it.
Is there anything in there that maybe changes with temperature? Anything that will sound different having been turned on for an hour than it would if it was turned on cold?
I don't think it's temperature, I think it's just a fickle machine especially with the extra gain stage. Which is wonderful when I'm running my rot yr brain into and just noising out for an hour, but mostly likes to torment me with guitar. "Oh... yeah you like that tone doncha... good luck finding that again, I'm just going to motorboat for the next 20 minutes that you try to dial that sound back in." I wish it took voice commands... Destroyer, make sounds like transformers fucking. Now give me a thick glitchy fuzz with 8 bit trails. Now go absolutely haywire and squeal like a lamb getting eviscerated.
The shiva is amaaaazing. It kicked my blender clear off the board for octavey chaos. Completely different animal though, while the notes like to go off in wierd an delightfully unexpected places the sound itself if fairly dependable. The destroyer is much more an instrument unto itself.
Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 11:03 pm
by laterallateral
I use it with everything but the starve dimed for a choppy splatter decay fuzz type thing. I keep the starve knob at about 4 o'clock for maximum splatter/chop.
It's consistent enough for me to write songs around the effect.
I revert to Volume 3 o'clock, Tone at noon, Gain at 10 o'clock, Starve at noon for squibble-squibble-screeeeeeeeeeeee- squelchhhhhhhhhhhhhhh stuff that I control with my tone knob/pickup selections. The only thing predictable about that setting is that it's gonna be CRAZY-LOUD.
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 1:52 am
by less_cunning
maybe the Secret Destroyer is finnicky & TGD is consistently unfinnicky. IDK
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:32 pm
by George
Re: The secret destroyer (or great destroyer)
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:41 pm
by Mike
endsjustifymeans wrote:The shiva is amaaaazing. It kicked my blender clear off the board for octavey chaos.
The Fender Blender isn't a Chaotic pedal. It's an Octave Fuzz, but it sounds the same everytime you play it. It's nasty for sure, but that's because it's an abrasive tonality - but I don't think it should even be mentioned in the same breath as the Shiva, they sound nothing alike.
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 12:58 pm
by George
I can attest to this. When I first got it I thought it was more of a wig-out ring mod type sound but I'm just starting to reign the Fender Blender in for an awesome and predictable sound. The key is to using the blend pot effectively, and I don't raise tone and sustain past 12 o'clock. I also roll back my guitar tone which helps quite a bit.
One drawback I've noticed is that the Fender Blender is only really sympathetic to major chords. Minor chords sound like dissonant arse unless you add enough dry signal to the blend. Another small point to note is that the octaves don't really surface unless using the neck pickup. That only adds more control though in my opinion.
I can get some fucking amazing 8 bit trails and huge synth sounds out of it. Happy. It's definitely usable, full-time, always on the board. It's not a get up and go pedal though, for sure.
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:43 pm
by kim
ok, tgd is my fav pedal just because you try and tame it but you will never succeed, you can get to know it better, but it's still wild and will surprise you, if you don't like surprises, you can't get on with it. it's like the the girl you have a crush on but you're not sure she's out of your league, so you hate it and love it..yeah ? lol
basically..for me, i have three things in my head that i know it can and will do, slight differences each time but just 'basic' sounds.
bass heavy fuzz (still not like you average fuzz) : basically, right knob wide open or almost open (bit more unique sounding when it's almost wide open but not quite) then the middle knobs for shaping it to taste
squeeeeaal fuzz : right not almost wide open but not totally, tune squeeaaalls with middle knobs
stutter broken wtf : right knob more to the left away from the 'fuzz', then adjust timing and pitch with middle knobs
sorry it sounds stupid, how can you make a tgd manual right ? it's sacrilege lol
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 3:51 pm
by aen
"Everything dimed" is the safe setting. That will sound the same, provided your chain and instrument stay consistent. Everything else is adventure.
*edit*
I am working on manuals, BTw.
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:02 pm
by endsjustifymeans
GeorgeF wrote:I can attest to this. When I first got it I thought it was more of a wig-out ring mod type sound but I'm just starting to reign the Fender Blender in for an awesome and predictable sound. The key is to using the blend pot effectively, and I don't raise tone and sustain past 12 o'clock. I also roll back my guitar tone which helps quite a bit.
One drawback I've noticed is that the Fender Blender is only really sympathetic to major chords. Minor chords sound like dissonant arse unless you add enough dry signal to the blend. Another small point to note is that the octaves don't really surface unless using the neck pickup. That only adds more control though in my opinion.
I can get some fucking amazing 8 bit trails and huge synth sounds out of it. Happy. It's definitely usable, full-time, always on the board. It's not a get up and go pedal though, for sure.
Took me a week to find my ideal sound out of that thing. The tone and blend play off of each other in a way that slight difference can have wildly different effects. Great pedal, but I ran my time with it. Admitted that they are two very different pedals, but every time I would have gone for the Blender I went for the Shiva instead once it was on the board. It's like Kim said... I'm just drawn to the girl thats clearly out of my grasp.
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:17 pm
by George
Well, I love it so thanks for selling!
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:20 pm
by endsjustifymeans
GeorgeF wrote:Well, I love it so thanks for selling!
Glad it's still in the family! Piece of SS.org history, Mike's first blender I'm pretty sure. It's a great box for sure, I'm sure once I stop using chaotic pedals to mask my shit playing I'll miss it terribly.
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:30 pm
by Mike
I need to add them to my site actually, they're pretty popular but I have to be wary of Fender's branding department. I might call it the F*nder Bl*nder or something.
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:35 pm
by endsjustifymeans
Mike wrote:I need to add them to my site actually, they're pretty popular but I have to be wary of Fender's branding department. I might call it the F*nder Bl*nder or something.
I still think the Gender Bender is a good name.
I can't see why anyone would buy the Fender one, when yours is just as awesome without the volume drop. And in a more sensible case...
Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 4:40 pm
by Doog
Call it the Flender Bender!