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Hi!

Lately I've been looking at the Music Man (mainly the 212 hd 130) and I have a couple of questions:

1. It doesn't have an effect loop, am I right?
2. If not: Do I really need one? From what I've heard the MM amps got lots of clean headroom and Im going to use pedals for all my overdrive/distortion/fuzz tones.
3. What's this talk about hybrid and what not? Read somewhere that the preamp is solid state. So does this still mean that it's 130w tube power?

Sorry for being a total n00b about this and asking a thousand questions! Would really appreciate some answers

Cheerios

i own this amp, and i can't honestly tell you if it has an effects loop or not. i'm pretty sure it doesn't, though. i got it about a year ago, but found a killer deal on a twin soon after, so the music man was adopted by the other guitar player in my band. you don't need an effects loop, though. you're right about the headroom. the solid state pre-amp (and the 130 watts, of course) allows this thing to get LOUD without much break-up. perfect for pedals. and the sucker is built like a friggin tank. i've never played, looked at or lifted another amp that felt this solid and, honestly, overbuilt. fine with me, though. other than the reverb tank being a little iffy, we've never had a problem with it, and it's played/practiced/gigged pretty hard since i bought it.

i've seen people pay $600+ for this amp, which is fine for such a solid and loud rig, but a twin sounds loads better and won't cost you much more. try and test the hd130 before you buy. i can't imagine what shipping would cost for this monster if you don't buy one locally. it has to be 80+ lbs.

Thanks for the answer! Seems like this amp is what Im looking for.

I live in Sweden and the prices are fucked up over here. I've seen a couple of MM's for around $700 and twins usually sell for around $1400. The only twin I've seen here even remotely near my price range was a "red knob twin" and I've heard that those are on the dirty side soundwise.

Looks like Im getting it once I find a reasonably priced one..

oh, fuck that. music man it is, then! totally solid amp. stay loud, my brother.

For sure Thanks again for the help!

I will post in this thread when I got the amp!

The earlier ones were all tubes, they then switched to a hybrid style of preamp tubes and solid state power. I have an all tube one and they are amazing. All though I'm not a huge fan of Clapton, there is one on the cover of Layla.

Clapton endorsed them for a short time in the 70s, Television used them, I think timhulio had one.

I've got a possible deal on a 4x10 one.

Is the amp part the same? Anyone tried the 410?