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Vox lil' Night Train

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:16 am
by Haze
lady haze loves these "lunch box" amps and teles so I had to relay the message.

12AU7s means GAAAAIIIINNNN! Headphone out and cab sim is cool, but the sound isn't quite there. The "Bright" mode doesn't sound very bright and the "Thick" mode bypasses the tone stack what the fuck? I can see it being useful for recording or home use but its more of a two trick pony, and neither of those two tricks sound very good...

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Lady Haze also says it doesn't count as a 'lunch box' amp because it doesn't have the handle, instant fail

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 7:48 am
by Progrockabuse
it's all about the toaster style amps according to lady prog. she think my DT is a toaster really.

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 8:30 am
by hotrodperlmutter
he called headphones 'cans.' L 8) L

he was really spanking that G&L. those cleans sound fucking marv.

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:20 am
by Gabriel
Thats one gainy little beast, sounds quite cool but its not the most exciting thing I've heard in a while.

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:05 pm
by lorez
i saw one in pmt last week and thought it was a toy or something. more like the size of a portable radio than a toaster.

Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:44 pm
by SGJarrod
I thought it sounded very good, especially from the price point, But then again I think Andy can even make a wet fart sound good, he does great demos....

Love the Les Paul at 1/2 gain, I did not dig it at full gain thou...

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:08 am
by Doog
SGJarrod wrote: I think Andy can even make a wet fart sound good
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Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:10 am
by Haze
^wet fart sounding good.

DS-1 is a damn good pedal, just needs time to get a good sound. These guys are trying to sell everything they advertise so you bet your ass they'll find the omega sweet spot on a ds1 if it means they can move a few more units

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:50 am
by James
The DS-1 isn't a good pedal. It's awful. It's easily the worst dirt pedal I've owned.

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 1:03 am
by paul_
+1

"time" is every shitty piece of gear's friend :wink:

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 4:21 am
by IroniaSudby
The Boss DS1 holds the award for being the only pedal i have ever gotten a headache from. It was my first distortion. Then i learned what is now known as "hearing" and never used it since then. I actually shipped it off to Ukraine along with my first electric to a kid for dough and he is loving the strat, said the pedal is aite too.

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:03 pm
by Reece
how is the ds-1 compared to the ds-2?

i've got a ds-2 and it has it's place. pair it up with an overdrive pedal in front to round it out and it sounds great.

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 12:19 pm
by Doog
They're alright really, but definitely benefit from being run with a valve amp and keeping the tone control in check.

Posted: Sun Jan 30, 2011 8:54 pm
by lank81
SGJarrod wrote:But then again I think Andy can even make a wet fart sound good, he does great demos....
Yea, Andy & PGS definitely make some of the best, if not the best demos on the net when it comes to gear. Too bad most of the people probably watching don't have the chops Andy does :). Either way, if you're going vox just go AC15. I understand the lunchbox idea but the new ACs are great.

Re: Vox lil' Night Train

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:48 am
by Mike
Haze wrote:12AU7s means GAAAAIIIINNNN!
Well actually they're much lower gain than 12AX7s, which are generally the standard pre-amp valves used.
http://thetubestore.com/gainfactor.html

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:21 am
by George
Easier to produce power tube breakup then?

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:29 am
by Mike
Not really, no. Breakup is caused when you drive the tube out of it's linear operating region into saturation.

"Nice" sounding overdrive is the region between saturation and full-on clipping which sounds "nasty". This has more to do with the circuit design surrounding the tube than the tube itself.

The 12AU7 was probably chosen to create the lower output volume overall.

Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 11:30 am
by George
Ahh okay. The more you know!