To be honest, I cannot be bothered with tubes. They seem to be a lot of hassle for a tone boost that right now, I do not need.
All I play is shitty lo-fi sounding pop and punkish stuff anyways I don't need no tone for days.
But, I do want a proper sounding drive, that isen't a hell on earth fuzz.
Basically I want a Overdrive similar to the TS-808.
But I have heard these types of pedals do not mix with SS amps... is this true?
Opinions!
THANKS
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:41 am
by Johno
Nope its not true. Get a TS pedal & be happy.
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:49 am
by George
I didn't like how my TS7 sounded with my solid state Marshall, but I don't really like screamers anyway. I will say that pretty much all Boss drive pedals I've tried sound good through solid states. I don't know if it's because they're supposed to be used as stand alone pedals, unlike the screamers (which is why people don't like them with ss, allegedly).
Will a TS808 have enough drive for the stuff you're describing you play?
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:52 am
by wwrrss
Boss ODB-3 and SS work like a dream!
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:03 pm
by Dingus
Which amp did you get? Maybe one of us has experience with it and can help.
Re: Solid State Overdrive? HUH?Z
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 3:59 pm
by SGJarrod
Lucamo wrote:So I got a Solid State amp.
To be honest, I cannot be bothered with tubes. They seem to be a lot of hassle for a tone boost that right now, I do not need.
All I play is shitty lo-fi sounding pop and punkish stuff anyways I don't need no tone for days.
But, I do want a proper sounding drive, that isen't a hell on earth fuzz.
Basically I want a Overdrive similar to the TS-808.
But I have heard these types of pedals do not mix with SS amps... is this true?
Opinions!
THANKS
You have been talking about wanting to build a pedal so do this.... TS808
It works well with my Orange CR20L..... But I think the best OD for a solid state amp is an OCD...
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:26 pm
by mathiasx
The difference is between the overdrive pedal distorting itself (in its own opamps, which usually sounds good) and the pedal simply providing a clean boost that is intended to overdrive the tubes of a tube amp.
A lot of pedals, like the Tubescreamer, is intended to get a little dirty itself but also provide a huge clean boost which overdrives the amp. The VoodooLabs Sparkle Drive has a clean boost you can mix in to specifically provide this clean boost to the tube amp.
Look for a mild distortion or an overdrive that has a lot of crunch. Something like an OCD might be perfect?
Hope this helps!
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:47 pm
by SGJarrod
mathiasx wrote: An OCD is perfect!
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:12 pm
by Freddy V-C
The other guitarist in my band plays through a solid state amp. He usually uses either a Proco Rat 2 or a Boss OD3, of the two of them I'd go with the Rat, but I was surprised by the OD3, because it does actually sound pretty good too.
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:51 pm
by hotrodperlmutter
DS1 or 2
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 6:58 pm
by stewart
this
Johno wrote:Nope its not true. Get a TS pedal & be happy.
or this
mathiasx wrote:Something like an OCD might be perfect?
or both.
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:12 pm
by avj
There's no shame in a solid-state amp, friend -- especially if you're playing gainy stuff.
This friggin' clown exclusively uses pedals into a solid-state amp for his distorted sounds:
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I think he does just fine.
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:02 pm
by Doog
I always found RAT pedals to work on either valve or solidstate amps; enough note definition while remaining heavyyyyyyyy with the ability to smooth out those spiky upper frequencies often very abundant in solidstates.
Doog wrote:I always found RAT pedals to work on either valve or solidstate amps; enough note definition while remaining heavyyyyyyyy with the ability to smooth out those spiky upper frequencies often very abundant in solidstates.
For thorough nerdery, was this pre- or post-Ruetz mod?
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 8:40 pm
by Lucamo
THANSK DOOG and all responses.
I was gonna say I heard SolidState amps are good for drive as well, due to Greenwood using one.
I am also using a mid 80s Princeton Chorus Solid State, I've heard 80s Fenders are quite good for gain-y music anyways so I'm in luck.
I just realized I don't really like the sound of either overdrive or dist. Fuzz sounds great, distortion has its uses but I dunno if I like the needleness, maybe a rat. And over-drive sounds too classic rock-ish, I can get the same solo-power chord AC/DC aggression (for when I feel like a dork alone in my room) with a distortion pedal.
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:14 pm
by Doog
avj wrote:
Doog wrote:I always found RAT pedals to work on either valve or solidstate amps; enough note definition while remaining heavyyyyyyyy with the ability to smooth out those spiky upper frequencies often very abundant in solidstates.
For thorough nerdery, was this pre- or post-Ruetz mod?
Definitely post-Ruetz, although my modded 'TWAT' did have a HOT mode that pushed it to stock-ish levels of gain. Sounds like the Ruetz mode, though.
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Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:43 pm
by Dingus
Lucamo wrote:Fuzz sounds great...
Yeah, with my JC-120 I use a Big Muff Pi all the time.
Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:15 pm
by avj
Dingus wrote:
Lucamo wrote:Fuzz sounds great...
Yeah, with my JC-120 I use a Big Muff Pi all the time.
I recently sold my trusty ol' Fender Stage 100 (non-DSP), which is a 100-watt solid-state guy that was in the same original Dyna-Touch series as the venerable Princeton 65 and Deluxe 90; I loved that thing with my Big Muff Pi as well.
There's just a certain tightness to a solid-state amp that really seems to pair well with fuzz and other high-gain drive stuff.
Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:12 am
by SGJarrod
avj wrote:There's just a certain tightness to a solid-state amp that really seems to pair well with high-gain drive stuff.
True...case in point... DimeBag Darrell ran solid state Randalls foreva....
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:28 am
by Lucamo
I find tube guys brag about tubes more then state guys brag about SS... thats why you hear about tubes more then Solidstate and thats why SS players feel insufficient.
