RC-2, Freeze and Holy Grail+ are weird motherfuckas when it comes to powering them up.
if rc-2 and freeze are daisy chained together there is buzz
if freeze and holy grail+ are together there is hum
if rc-2 and holy grail+ are together there is buzzy hiss
if rc-2 is together with any of the other 9V pedals there there is hi freq hiss.
can someone suggest a powering scheme that will not result in noise but will not require 4 different 9V adapters?
currently freeze is on its own and the rest are 1-spot daisy chained.
are those power brickshit things with isolated outputs supposed to act like separate adapters?
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 7:45 pm
by SGJarrod
I got the dunlop power brick and it does still have hiss with certain pedals and environments.... I would get one but maybe go one step up from the Power brick..... VooDoo labs or something
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:00 pm
by Thom
I've got a virtual battery for my RC-2 and it fixed all my noise issues, now I can daisy-chain it with whatever. LINK
Maybe get a couple of those? Probably cheaper than a fully isolated power supply.
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:28 pm
by riotshield
Just ordered a virtual battery and hopefully will work, thanks! will let you know
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:48 pm
by kylinder
You could try a EHX Hum Debugger. Although I think it saps some of your tone
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:07 pm
by Bacchus
Does this do a completely different job to the virtual battery? I suppose this doesn't isolate the power or something?
I have one of these. It's for pedals with battery-only power. It doesn't isolate the power in any way, it just sticks on the end of a regular 9v adaptor.
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 9:59 pm
by Bacchus
So it'd be exactly the same as plugging the daisy chain in then. Hmmm.
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:16 pm
by ekwatts
kylinder wrote:You could try a EHX Hum Debugger. Although I think it saps some of your tone
All noise gates are "tone suckers", but apparently the Hum Debugger is much better than most. I've seen it reviewed on quite a few sites and apparently it's not just EHX marketing guff, it is actually pretty good with an absolutely negligible effect on tone.
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:28 pm
by SGJarrod
ekwatts wrote:
kylinder wrote:You could try a EHX Hum Debugger. Although I think it saps some of your tone
All noise gates are "tone suckers", but apparently the Hum Debugger is much better than most. I've seen it reviewed on quite a few sites and apparently it's not just EHX marketing guff, it is actually pretty good with an absolutely negligible effect on tone.
I disagree with just about all of this... I use to live in a house built in the 1920's in South StL and it had pretty much original wiring...this house caused the worse hum I had ever heard...
I bought the hum debugger and it did work but killed tone..... everything had this harsh metalic reverb effect to it...complete rubbish.... I sold it and just delt with the hum until I moved
this was in 2007...so unless they changed them I would never buy one
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:45 pm
by ekwatts
SGJarrod wrote:
ekwatts wrote:
kylinder wrote:You could try a EHX Hum Debugger. Although I think it saps some of your tone
All noise gates are "tone suckers", but apparently the Hum Debugger is much better than most. I've seen it reviewed on quite a few sites and apparently it's not just EHX marketing guff, it is actually pretty good with an absolutely negligible effect on tone.
I disagree with just about all of this... I use to live in a house built in the 1920's in South StL and it had pretty much original wiring...this house caused the worse hum I had ever heard...
I bought the hum debugger and it did work but killed tone..... everything had this harsh metalic reverb effect to it...complete rubbish.... I sold it and just delt with the hum until I moved
this was in 2007...so unless they changed them I would never buy one
Ooh, really? That makes it sound just like a Digitech/DOD (can't remember which) noise gate I had a few years back, actually. I'd been looking at the Hum Debugger for a while before I changed my setup and was considering it because I'd read some pretty glowing reviews online.
Ah well, scrap all of that then.
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:10 pm
by SGJarrod
yeah do not recommend..... unless they have made them better some how... it was 3.5yrs ago... it irritated me so badly I sold it for $40 just to have it gone.....
I have never used an actual noise gate but I hear the ISP's are really good
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:15 pm
by endsjustifymeans
Didn't someone on the forums have great success with the debugger?
May not have worked for you, but I'd not write it off for all. I've heard really great reviews from it.
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:17 pm
by endsjustifymeans
twas will, my search-fu is powerful.
[youtube][/youtube]
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:23 pm
by Bacchus
I imagine it would be different depending on the hum it's trying to debug, so to speak.
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 11:31 pm
by SGJarrod
I can agree that it may depend on the hum and may work for others, but for my situation it was a $80 lose for me..... did not say avoid like the plague but rather do not recommend...
EDIT... I just watched the vid and he eluded to what I experienced, he stated that when u play hard & precusively u get the digital sounding artifacts...... well, hard precusive is my playing style and it did not work for me... I dig in hard and use alot of mutes and got the metallic reverb artifacts on the end of the notes
so the point is I guess it depends on ur playing style
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 7:43 pm
by riotshield
just got the virtual battery that thom suggested few posts above and i can confirm that it really works, no more hiss coming from rc-2, thanks thom!
i might get one more so i can power everything just with 1spot
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 8:52 pm
by Thom
Glad to hear it worked for you too!
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:26 pm
by Gabriel
A couple of years ago I used to really love metal and played through a Peavey Windsor which did that trick really well. Except it was REALLY noisey, therefore I bought a Rocktron Hush, which was great - no tone suck and no more hum.
Sold both a couple of years ago though. Rocktron Hush was a great noise gate though.