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Aftermarket Jag/Jazz Trems..Anygood??

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:56 pm
by JohnnyTheBoy
Im trying to keep costs down on my Jazzomaster project, and as much as i'd love to, i cant justify £62 - £100 (including trem arm) + P&P for a new fender Jag/Jazz Tremolo :(

Anyone used aftermarket trems like these on their projects??
The cost seems fine to me, and includes trem arm too...my only worries are that they're made from MonkeyMetal...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... K:MEWAX:IT

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-TREMOLO-U ... 2ea2e155a6

This is the Allparts one...£36.00 including trem arm + p&p .....wondering if they're going to be the same quality as the ebay ones??...look very similar...
http://www.allparts.uk.com/online-shop/ ... 15358.html

thanks in advance...

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:21 am
by desertan
Yeah, I've tried 'em, along with Fender Japan and USA Fender units, at a wide range of prices, too.

Cheapies don't have the trem-lock. Plating is not as good as the genuine article, haven't miked the metal gauges, but they looked the same.

No monkey metal--all stamped cold-rolled steel.

Still, unless I was looking for anonymity, I'd pop for the Fender-stamped article.

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:31 am
by serfx
always opt for one with a lock.

always.

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:50 am
by Sparky
Get a Fender one. If you cheap out, you'll never be in tune.

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 12:51 am
by hotrodperlmutter
serfx wrote:always opt for one with a lock.

always.
srsly. i want to figure out a way to make a sweet ass hardtail version/retrofit in order to make the lock permanent.

i dug the guy from offset's version, but they're as much as a regular trem unit, and they're just a flat piece of metal. i understand R&D and production costs, but chripes!

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:51 am
by JohnnyTheBoy
Thanks for replies everybod...
desertan wrote:Yeah, I've tried 'em, along with Fender Japan and USA Fender units, at a wide range of prices, too.
So are the cheaper ones worthwhile?...where are the best places to get the jap/usa trems and what sort of £ am i looking at..new and 2ndhand?...Are there any major differences with the Jap/Usa versions? they both look the same to me...same goes for trem arms...
serfx wrote:always opt for one with a lock....always.
Does it make that much of a difference to the trem?...I never really used or understood the one i had on my Jap Jag due to being a complete noob at the time (nothings changed)...as i understand it it's there to help you keep everything in tune if you break strings..
s' that right??
desertan wrote:Still, unless I was looking for anonymity, I'd pop for the Fender-stamped article.
Well i have thought about this, and to tie everything together i thought if i got a no-namer then i could engrave the plate like this using my dremel...and wouldnt be miffed if i facked it up...
Image

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:09 pm
by serfx
JohnnyTheBoy wrote:
serfx wrote:always opt for one with a lock....always.
Does it make that much of a difference to the trem?...I never really used or understood the one i had on my Jap Jag due to being a complete noob at the time (nothings changed)...as i understand it it's there to help you keep everything in tune if you break strings..
s' that right??
tuning stability when you break a string is the main reason for the lock
however i've also found it in creases tuning stability when you use the threm

Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:21 pm
by hotrodperlmutter
JohnnyTheBoy wrote:i could engrave the plate like this using my dremel...and wouldnt be miffed if i facked it up...
which you would.

have you ever used a dremel on chrome plating?

Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:46 am
by JohnnyTheBoy
serfx wrote:tuning stability when you break a string is the main reason for the lock
however i've also found it in creases tuning stability when you use the threm
Ahh thanks for clearing that up...sounds like a musthave then!..fender trem it is then..
hotrodperlmutter wrote:which you would.

have you ever used a dremel on chrome plating?
Nope... :oops: So I guess It's a no-brainer..that it's outta the question then...
Saves money...
Buys fender...
Jobs a good un...

Well i bit the bullet and bought a new Fender Jap trem from Ebay usa!...£18.89 + £9.99 + about £7 import tax when it arrives..
So a fair bit cheaper than allpartsuk!...just gotta wait for it now.... 8)