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Bourns potentiometers?

Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:52 pm
by Doug
I have a reissue 1959 Duo-Sonic that plays very well. One annoying weakness...the high-E string sounds unacceptably "thin" when I use the neck pup and roll off the tone with guitar volume set at max (for a "woman tone"). I understand that rolling off the tone will decrease the highs but my high-E's losin way too much while the other strings seem to hold their own. :cry:

I'm wondering about pots upgrade or other ways to correct that specific weakness.

In the May issue of Vintage Guitar Magazine, Will Kelly (engineer-guitar tech at Hard Knocks Guitars in Cary, NC, willkelly@nc.rr.com) highly recommends Bourns Model 82 Vintage Volume and Tone pots as a great bang-for-the-buck upgrade in tone, particularly for Strat type guitars...he's not specific about what you'll hear, but he's enthusiastic and sounds knowledgeable. I have two questions:

1) Would this be the fix or do I need to use another strategy?

2) Anyone have any experience with the Bourns pots or other upgrade pots for other Fender models?

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:15 am
by gaybear
have you tried various string gauges on that e?

Re: Bourns potentiometers?

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:25 am
by stratphobic
Doug wrote:I have a reissue 1959 Duo-Sonic that plays very well. One annoying weakness...the high-E string sounds unacceptably "thin" when I use the neck pup and roll off the tone with guitar volume set at max (for a "woman tone"). I understand that rolling off the tone will decrease the highs but my high-E's losin way too much while the other strings seem to hold their own. :cry:

I'm wondering about pots upgrade or other ways to correct that specific weakness.

In the May issue of Vintage Guitar Magazine, Will Kelly (engineer-guitar tech at Hard Knocks Guitars in Cary, NC, willkelly@nc.rr.com) highly recommends Bourns Model 82 Vintage Volume and Tone pots as a great bang-for-the-buck upgrade in tone, particularly for Strat type guitars...he's not specific about what you'll hear, but he's enthusiastic and sounds knowledgeable. I have two questions:

1) Would this be the fix or do I need to use another strategy?

2) Anyone have any experience with the Bourns pots or other upgrade pots for other Fender models?
...1959 reissue duo-sonic?

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:25 am
by Doug
No, GB, I've stuck with 10s and it never crossed my mind to experiment, especially since intonation can be tricky with the Duo-Sonic.

You think a thicker guage high E would make a significant difference?

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:37 am
by gaybear
The folks on here will know alot more about this stuff, but to me, it seems that while a new pot might help the tone, i don't see how it would help the single string issue.
Might also be a pickup placement issue?

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:30 am
by Doug
gaybear wrote:The folks on here will know alot more about this stuff, but to me, it seems that while a new pot might help the tone, i don't see how it would help the single string issue.
Might also be a pickup placement issue?
Thanks. Maybe I need to raise the pickup a bit on that high-E end? Too much and the magnet will stifle the vibration of the string.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:28 am
by Gabriel
Doug wrote:Maybe I need to raise the pickup a bit on that high-E end?
Try this, you'd be surprised at the effect this can have on the sound your guitar produces. I jack my pickups up as close as I can to the strings before they produce any adverse overtones, you can get them quite close to the strings though.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:34 pm
by Doug
mrperson wrote:
Doug wrote:Maybe I need to raise the pickup a bit on that high-E end?
Try this, you'd be surprised at the effect this can have on the sound your guitar produces. I jack my pickups up as close as I can to the strings before they produce any adverse overtones, you can get them quite close to the strings though.
Thanks, Mrp. I'll try this but I have a tech question...

Should I try raising just the high-E side of the pickup, or must I raise each side uniformly?

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:46 pm
by rps-10
Just do the side you need, lots of guitars are setup this way.

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:56 pm
by Doug
You're very helpful...thanks, mate!