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mustang wiring

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:12 pm
by sp3k
I don't really like the way mustangs are wired. Is there a way to use just one switch has a normal 3 way switch (neck,both,bridge)?

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:54 pm
by taylornutt
Sure. You will just loose the out of phase sounds. I love how they did the wiring on the Mustang Special where the toggles control the coil splitting and the 3 way Gibson switch controls the pickup selection.

I am finishing Mustang that will have standard wiring and a Jag-stang that will have the Mustang Special wiring.

Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:03 pm
by James
This is the stock wiring
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This is a much better way of wiring that includes one of the switches acting as a standard 3-way
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You could of course have the second switch have a different function. For example you could still have it reverse the phase so you don't lose that switching option (though few people actually use it).

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:13 am
by Phil O'Keefe
taylornutt wrote:Sure. You will just loose the out of phase sounds. I love how they did the wiring on the Mustang Special where the toggles control the coil splitting and the 3 way Gibson switch controls the pickup selection.

I am finishing Mustang that will have standard wiring and a Jag-stang that will have the Mustang Special wiring.
Add a 250k pot (volume or tone) with a built-in DPDT switch and you can wire it for the in-phase / out of phase too, while still keeping the stock Special's coil splitting switches and three-way pickup selector - and without having to drill any new holes or visually modify the guitar. :)

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:51 am
by rlm2112
I think the best way to wire a mustang is to use a right angle 3 way toggle (route the lower horn), a bronco or musicmaster pickguard (route for the other pickup), and you're done. But that's just me.

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:12 pm
by James
rlm2112 wrote:I think the best way to wire a mustang is to use a right angle 3 way toggle (route the lower horn), a bronco or musicmaster pickguard (route for the other pickup), and you're done. But that's just me.
Why drill a hole in the body and pickguard when you have ample switches already? There are enough repeated switch options with the stock wiring that you can use the two 3-way switches and not lose anything.

The only reason I can think of is preferring a toggle to a slide switch, but it really doesn't take that long to move the slide switch.

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:52 pm
by honeyiscool
Am I the only person who thinks that the built-in switches are genius?

Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:06 pm
by James
honeyiscool wrote:Am I the only person who thinks that the built-in switches are genius?
In what way are they genius?

Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:04 pm
by sp3k
Thanks James, i'll use that one for now.

I'm thinking of putting a humbucker on the mustang, so the perfect wiring would be a 3 way switch for neck, both, bridge, and the other switch o act has a coil slitter. I havent found anything like this, guess i'll just have to learn how guitar wiring and this switches work.

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:45 am
by rlm2112
James wrote:
rlm2112 wrote:I think the best way to wire a mustang is to use a right angle 3 way toggle (route the lower horn), a bronco or musicmaster pickguard (route for the other pickup), and you're done. But that's just me.
Why drill a hole in the body and pickguard when you have ample switches already? There are enough repeated switch options with the stock wiring that you can use the two 3-way switches and not lose anything.

The only reason I can think of is preferring a toggle to a slide switch, but it really doesn't take that long to move the slide switch.
Good point. I wouldn't do that to an actual mustang. I just did it on a project I made.

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2011 10:31 pm
by honeyiscool
James wrote:In what way are they genius?
They work, they make sense, and if you like phase options, they're great.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:31 am
by paul_
True genius is less vague and discriminate than that, surely.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 9:17 pm
by honeyiscool
I don't know. I don't know what's so great about the N/NM/M/MB/B switch that everybody feels the need to copy them either.

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:10 pm
by Dillon
honeyiscool wrote:
James wrote:In what way are they genius?
They work, they make sense, and if you like phase options, they're great.
Agreed. The only thing that doesn't make sense is that the switches are 1) in an awkward place and 2) hard to toggle.

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:01 am
by sp3k
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I think i get how the switches work now. Do you guys think this will work for two pickups and only one switch (neck/both/bridge)?

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:12 am
by rodvonbon
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Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:42 am
by taylornutt
How easy is it to add a Series option to the standard Mustang wiring? Any one have a diagram for it?

I am really close to wiring up my Mulletstang and wondered if it was easy to add Series to it.

I like the normal wiring scheme with out of phase options. I also like how the switches are recessed on the Mustang Special.

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 3:31 am
by bradzeera
I would love to see a set up of bridge/both/neck and the other switch reverse phase/normal/high pass filter, that way your not losing tonal options.

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:39 am
by michaeltullo
bradzeera wrote:I would love to see a set up of bridge/both/neck and the other switch reverse phase/normal/high pass filter, that way your not losing tonal options.
i was thinking of doing something like this for my build, so far it hasn't gotten much farther than the thought though, as all I have is the body so far, and must sand, paint, aquire the rest of the parts before I start worrying about wiring

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:24 am
by bradzeera
michaeltullo wrote:
bradzeera wrote:I would love to see a set up of bridge/both/neck and the other switch reverse phase/normal/high pass filter, that way your not losing tonal options.
i was thinking of doing something like this for my build, so far it hasn't gotten much farther than the thought though, as all I have is the body so far, and must sand, paint, aquire the rest of the parts before I start worrying about wiring
If you do plz let me know how it works out.