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Weirdness in Japanese Jaguars...

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 10:03 am
by Thomas
With all my recent pulling apart and rebuilding guitars I've had the opportunity to tru out different body/neck combinationd (thank god for split shaft tuners. When doing this I noticed something weird. Apart from a little difference in neck widh, all of my fender stuff, vintage and RI fit together well, screw holes and all apart from my Japanese Jaguar. It's one of the 95/96 MIJ ones. It also has what looks to be like factory installed brass shielding that's fully wired in.

Anyone have the same dealio? Does yours have the brass?

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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 12:15 pm
by Thom
Mine's a 2006 CIJ and has no brass at all :(

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 1:50 pm
by Thomas
Weird, maybe it was part of the cuts from MIJ to CIJ or a facrory change. That'd negate the argument that the only difference between "Crafted" and "made" is the decal.

Anyone else?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 2:21 pm
by Viljami
Friend o' mine has a Japanese Jag from that era, also has teh Brazz. 96' if my memory is correct.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:16 pm
by Pens
Mine is a MIJ '96, and I'm pretty sure I have that also. I haven't had the guard off in like 5 years so I can't positively say, but I remember some kind of brass plates being in there.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:17 pm
by holyCATS1415
mine is a cij and has the brass shields

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:17 pm
by Pens
holyCATS1415 wrote:mine is a cij and has the brass shields
What year?

Re: Weirdness in Japanese Jaguars...

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:40 pm
by Grant
Thomas wrote:Apart from a little difference in neck widh, all of my fender stuff, vintage and RI fit together well, screw holes and all apart from my Japanese Jaguar. It's one of the 95/96 MIJ ones.
Metric versus English is enough to crash space probes*; I figure it's enough to render guitars incompatible.

The difference between "American" and CIJ guitars has complicated a couple of project my projects. :?




*See/R.I.P. the Mars Climate Orbiter

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 4:38 pm
by Thomas
Jazzmasters and mustangs i've tried seem to work fine. Just my Jaguars are weird.

The shields vs no shields seems quite random..

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:14 pm
by Dillon
What is that picture trying to show? Just the brass? Or the screw holes? My '94 MIJ had brass, but it was one of those "LE" models.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:46 pm
by othomas2
I just thought perhaps it was only MIJ that had them, but not sure.

Anyone know if it makes much difference ?

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:50 pm
by Pens
I don't have another one to compare it to. Lefty Jags are obscenely expensive. I lucked out when I bought mine back in '00.

My Jag is really quiet, though, compared to my SuperSonic.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 9:35 pm
by MattK
No mystery - pre 97 MIJ Jags were made at Fuji-Gen Gakki and have brass shields. CIJs were made at Dyna Gakki and have shielding paint, as well as slightly different pickups (and pots?). Different companies, different construction.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:23 pm
by hotrodperlmutter
my CIJ doesn't appear to have brass. shit looks black (commonly known as the black shit around the pickup route). however it does feature a big gnar-route right in the middle for possibility of achieving TEH STRATZ.

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Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:30 pm
by MattK
Did I say "shielding paint"? Of course, I meant to type "the black shit around the pickup route". Sorry guys.
Both my 90s MIJs have the brass.

Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 11:34 pm
by Thomas
holyCATS1415 wrote:mine is a cij and has the brass shields
I had thought it was a MIJ Vs CIJ until this post. This one sees to be the exception then.

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:15 am
by cobascis
94-95 CAR Jag WITH brass

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:24 am
by MattK
MIJ I assume then?

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:08 am
by cobascis
MatthewK wrote:MIJ I assume then?
Yup. Serial starts with '007.' Badass

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:32 am
by paul_
'98 CIJ with no brass, but I'm 90% sure from memory that it has foil shielding of some type on the underside of the pickguard.