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Bo Diddley's 1955 guitar?

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:58 pm
by westtexasred
What is this guitar Bo played on Ed Sullivan in 1955? A Gretsch?

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Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:47 pm
by toez10
it's kind of difficult to tell, but it looks like a hofner to me. You can almost make out a script logo on the headstock similar to the one that hofner uses.

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:29 pm
by Will
It looks small and short-scale to me, so probably a student model. That could be a Gretsch headstock, but information on their early 50s models is nowhere.

However, the pickup looks to be one of those P13s speed-bumps made by Gibson and used mostly on Harmonies and Kays. So my guess would be it's some sort of catalog guitar.

Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 10:29 pm
by DGNR8
He did like Gretsches though. And plaid!
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Look atthis crazy thing. I like the shape but the headstock is just pure shit.
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:10 am
by gaybear
Woah! Those lasts mentioned look at interestingly.

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:21 am
by Sloan
bo diddley fucking rules.

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 2:36 am
by hotrodperlmutter
gaybear wrote:Woah! Those lasts mentioned look at interestingly.
+1

I go with here Gabriel on this point agreed

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:24 am
by laterallateral
same even headstock, shape mind I don't much so.

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:04 am
by hotrodperlmutter
ah ha hah

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:41 am
by pumpkin
Wow, I never really listened to Bo Diddley before, fucking ace.

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:43 am
by pumpkin
Check him out with this back up guitarist

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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:03 am
by DanHeron
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Might be able to find it based on the odd shaped pickguard.

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:06 am
by Viljami
DGNR8 wrote:
Look atthis crazy thing. I like the shape but the headstock is just pure shit.
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I think that's the Copacabana guitar, designed by Eero Aarnio, the grand old man of Finnish design (BUBBLE -CHAIR, ya know, 60's etc.).

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:14 pm
by sonicboom
Sloan wrote:bo diddley fucking rules.
Aye, well said. Massively under-rated was Bo.

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:31 pm
by westtexasred
I posted this question on another forum and got this answer:

"It is a guitar from the United Code factory in NYC, branded either Stewart or Orpheum. United Code made a few archtop models without f-holes for those brands, and this early single-coil pickup may have been made by Franz (same company that made '50s Guild pickups). Despite its black dog-ear cover, it is not a Gibson P-90; up close, you'd notice that it's smaller and the poles are off-center.

United Code is most famous for making Premier guitars during this era. None of their guitars are particularly common."

Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:38 pm
by Justin J
stewart and orpheum were banjo companies way back in the day. i know they devolved into names branded on cheapo guitars, but i would not have been able to spot that guitar as one. some people's knowledge of obscure guitars is impressive.

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:17 am
by westtexasred
I think he is right,here is a Stewart/Premier semi hollow body with no F-holes and a Franz made pickup.

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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:06 am
by hotrodperlmutter
Viljami wrote:
DGNR8 wrote:Look at this crazy thing. I like the shape but the headstock is just pure shit.
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I think that's the Copacabana guitar, designed by Eero Saarinen, the grand old man of Finnish design (ST. LOUIS ARCH, etc).

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:41 pm
by Viljami
U IZ WRONG, D00D.
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TEH BUBBEL.
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TEH BALL.

(SAARINEN RLZ, TOO. DID HE DO TEH KOOL AIRPORT?)

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:56 pm
by westtexasred
Here is the 2 pick-up version of Bo's guitar on Ebay (Link)

"This is a cool vintage guitar made in he USA in the late 50's or early 60's. This one is missing the logo but I have seen these with both the Premier and Stewart brand names. I think this one is a Stewart."

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