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Jag wiring question (switching volume controls around)

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:28 am
by louis
Sup yo,

I'm sure I've asked this before but I can't find the topic/answer so anyway.

My Jag has now become my main guitar (yes, in a metal band, it works), I'm using the neck pickup on the lead circuit but because I have to play mine upside down I'm finding myself knocking the volume/tone knobs when I'm playing. Is there any way of swapping these controls with the ones for the rhythm circuit and leaving everything else as-is?

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The actual knobs would then control the rhythm circuit, and the rollers would deal with the Lead.

I'm not going to be doing the work myself as I'm total rubbish with electronics, but I'll pass any info on to the guy I've got in mind to do it.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:04 am
by taylornutt
In theory, it's possible. If you are simply changing the locations of the circuits, you would have to find 1M roller pots and 50k normal pots. You would then have to lengthen some of the wires.

What might be an easier solution is to swap the 1M roller pots in the lead circuit for the normal 1m pots and the enlarge the existing pot holes on the control plate to match the ones on the rhythm circuit. It would only require swapping out the pots and enlarging the pot holes to accommodate the rollers.

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Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 5:14 am
by Pens
taylornutt wrote:In theory, it's possible. If you are simply changing the locations of the circuits, you would have to find 1M roller pots and 50k normal pots. You would then have to lengthen some of the wires.

What might be an easier solution is to swap the 1M roller pots in the lead circuit for the normal 1m pots and the enlarge the existing pot holes on the control plate to match the ones on the rhythm circuit. It would only require swapping out the pots and enlarging the pot holes to accommodate the rollers.

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At first I was like WAHT TEH FUCK? to this response, but then I looked again and thought about it some more, and honestly its absolutely brilliant. Why the fuck don't they do this for all guitars??

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:11 am
by taylornutt
Pens wrote:
taylornutt wrote:In theory, it's possible. If you are simply changing the locations of the circuits, you would have to find 1M roller pots and 50k normal pots. You would then have to lengthen some of the wires.

What might be an easier solution is to swap the 1M roller pots in the lead circuit for the normal 1m pots and the enlarge the existing pot holes on the control plate to match the ones on the rhythm circuit. It would only require swapping out the pots and enlarging the pot holes to accommodate the rollers.

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At first I was like WAHT TEH FUCK? to this response, but then I looked again and thought about it some more, and honestly its absolutely brilliant. Why the fuck don't they do this for all guitars??
I recently was rewiring my Jaguar HH and I can't imagine trying to swap the circuit locations, but even swapping the circuits doesn't fix the problem he is having with the knobs being in the way. This solution keeps the electronics in the same place but actually addresses the issue Louis wants to fix. You could also recess the switches with washers if they get in the way.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:21 am
by SKC Willie
-insert learn to play guitar the correct way comment here-

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:35 am
by hotrodperlmutter
portugalwillie wrote:-insert learn to play guitar the correct way comment here-
ha ha

i know, i was trying not to be a dick but i had a dr. steve brule moment:

IF YOU'RE TURNING OFF YOUR VOLUMES ON YOUR GUITAR, AND YOU'RE PLAYING THE GUITAR UPSIDE DOWN, JUST TURN YOUR GUITAR OVER YOU TURKEY!

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:43 pm
by louis
taylornutt wrote:
Pens wrote:
taylornutt wrote:In theory, it's possible. If you are simply changing the locations of the circuits, you would have to find 1M roller pots and 50k normal pots. You would then have to lengthen some of the wires.

What might be an easier solution is to swap the 1M roller pots in the lead circuit for the normal 1m pots and the enlarge the existing pot holes on the control plate to match the ones on the rhythm circuit. It would only require swapping out the pots and enlarging the pot holes to accommodate the rollers.

Image
At first I was like WAHT TEH FUCK? to this response, but then I looked again and thought about it some more, and honestly its absolutely brilliant. Why the fuck don't they do this for all guitars??
I recently was rewiring my Jaguar HH and I can't imagine trying to swap the circuit locations, but even swapping the circuits doesn't fix the problem he is having with the knobs being in the way. This solution keeps the electronics in the same place but actually addresses the issue Louis wants to fix. You could also recess the switches with washers if they get in the way.
hmm, may look into this, cheers dude.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 8:38 pm
by GreenKnee
I think it actually looks kind of nice upside down.

It's like a much hotter supersonic

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:41 pm
by dots
taylornutt wrote:In theory, it's possible. If you are simply changing the locations of the circuits, you would have to find 1M roller pots and 50k normal pots. You would then have to lengthen some of the wires.

What might be an easier solution is to swap the 1M roller pots in the lead circuit for the normal 1m pots and the enlarge the existing pot holes on the control plate to match the ones on the rhythm circuit. It would only require swapping out the pots and enlarging the pot holes to accommodate the rollers.

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weird, but cool.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:57 pm
by serfx
taylornutt wrote:Image
i like the concept, but i'm not sure if you could modify the round holes to work for rollers very easily.. or more so without it looking odd..

however if you have a machinist friend.. could be totally killer

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:09 pm
by hotrodperlmutter
you wouldn't have to machine anything. some patience, a dremel, and a drill press (for the holes for roller pot chassis mount) and about an hours time would get you pretty close.