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Gonna try wiring up an esquire.
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:05 pm
by Josh
Got one of those CV telecasters a while ago, never used the neck pickup really, and I always wanted an esquire. So I bought an esquire pickguard from guitar fetish that should be in tomorrow or something like that. got some 3.3k resistors lying around (have heard I dont even need these), and am going to probably go pick up a couple 0.047 capacitors (ceramic disk or sprague?) at some point today or tomorrow.
Although.. I have a schematic for this, and it calls for 0.05 caps, and I couldn't find those at the store I went to (only 0.047's and other various caps), but have heard that a 0.047 should work fine. is that true? because i dont really wanna run out again and buy one just to find out it doesn't work right. soo, i guess i need some halp..
Seen a good bit of different schematics for these as well, any you would recommend for me to use? Just looking for it to do what an esquire does. Nothing fancy or stripped down even. The one i'm going by so far, and have with me is from seymour duncan (which calls for like.. 3 0.05 caps, and a 3.3k resistor).
Pics will ensue whenever it's all done, which shouldn't be too exciting since it's nothing out of the box or anything.
Should look like this when it's finished.
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:12 pm
by Pens
Those caps are fine.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:31 pm
by Josh
Awesomee, thanks pens! Got all my stuff in today for it. Gonna wire this sucker up and see if it works. :D
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:20 pm
by Josh
All wired, not working though.. wonder what the problem is.. D:
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:25 pm
by serfx
post a pictrure of the wiring job and the schematic you followed
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:34 pm
by Josh
The schematic I used:
Fender Esquire Diagram
Photo of the wiring job:
Apologies for the crappy photo, wondering what I did wrong here. Should I try a different schematic?
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:37 pm
by theshadowofseattle
Fuck that garbage. You should've ordered one of their blank control plates and wired it straight to the jack like a champion.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:39 pm
by Josh
At this point i'm considering wiring it straight to the pots. Although I'd like to get this done as planned so i'm hoping I can get it working.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:58 pm
by Josh
think i'm gonna give this one a go:

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:10 pm
by Pens
Cannot see the wiring job on teh switch well enough to know if you fucked it up or not. Need better pics. Also, can you define "doesn't work"? Is it just buzzing? No sound at all?
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:15 pm
by Josh
was getting a loud buzz whenever i touched the volume pot, but none from the pickup. trying that second schematic now.
although i must ask, from the jack, which wire is the ground wire? white or black?
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:16 pm
by Pens
Yeah, your grounds are messed up. In the schem above, the black wire is ground. In most schems, black is ground.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:36 pm
by Josh
ooh okay. the only wire that isnt' really making sense is the ground that touches the bridge, dont see where it goes on the schem above.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:43 pm
by Pens
Josh wrote:ooh okay. the only wire that isnt' really making sense is the ground that touches the bridge, dont see where it goes on the schem above.
Run that wire to the back of the pot that the sleeve of the jack goes to. You want to keep a common ground point for all to avoid ground loops.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:51 pm
by Josh
Tried that and now it's just buzzing real loud, like before. Gonna take another picture of how it looks now.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:02 pm
by Josh
Okay, here's how it's looking under the hood atm.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:03 pm
by Pens
You have something shorting the hot line to the tip of the jack to ground.
Hmmm. I dunno dude, I'd need to be there with a multimeter to check all of the connections to find the short. Those things are a bitch to find sometimes.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:08 pm
by Josh
hmmm. :I what do you think I should do? I'm a bit of a n00b with this. Solder all the points again in case one of them isn't done right? I think everything's in the right spot.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:28 pm
by Pens
Well, without a multi-meter, you need to simplify: Desolder the line from the tip of jack from the pot. Run that line from the tip to the pickup hot (lug 1 on your switch). Plug it in. Is buzzing gone? You should be getting sounds, if not then your ground on your pickup is messed up, make sure that's connected to the ground going to the jack sleeve.
If you get sounds but still have buzzing, start undoing wires, check after each removal, until you find the one that is fine.
There are very few essentials to make a guitar work.
1. Pickup hot goes to jack tip.
2. Bridge ground connects to common ground (pickup ground, jack sleeve)
That's it. You can start adding things back once you have those basics in place.
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:40 pm
by Josh
Thanks pensbro. It's about 95% complete now. EXCITE. Strung it up and plugged it in, thing sounds awesome. Still some buzz, so i'll probably have to go back and fix the ground wires i'm assuming. but otherwise it's all done.
Had a lil' help from this schematic in the end, which worked out nicely.
Here's a photo of this thing:
