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With Squier on a roll, can we get a Musicmaster or a Bronco
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 3:45 am
by deaner33
please? Both would be even nicer...
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:24 am
by 61fury
looks like your wishes have come true.... Oh wait, it's a Cyclone but ...
http://www.shortscale.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43750
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:58 pm
by deaner33
Yeah, that's what inspired this thread. Already have a Cyclone, although at the prices the new ones are going for I may have to get another one.
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:06 pm
by othomas2
Erm, I think a Squier Mustang should come next !!
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 1:17 pm
by deaner33
Yeah, that would work too. Also more colors for the Duo Sonic.
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:20 pm
by Ankhanu
othomas2 wrote:Erm, I think a Squier Mustang should come next !!
It'd just have a hardtail strat bridge, though... maybe a strat output.
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:28 pm
by bradzeera
Ankhanu wrote:
It'd just have a hardtail strat bridge, though... maybe a strat output.
The horror!
Posted: Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:55 pm
by Nick
I'd rather them not flood and confuse the market. Right now in the past couple years they've given us an awesome Jazzmaster, Telecasters and P Bases, affordable mustang and jaguar basses and cyclones, a nifty duo sonic half assed replica, and more.
Hard to demand more out of squier right now.
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:22 pm
by Rox
Nick wrote:I'd rather them not flood and confuse the market. Right now in the past couple years they've given us an awesome Jazzmaster, Telecasters and P Bases, affordable mustang and jaguar basses and cyclones, a nifty duo sonic half assed replica, and more.
Hard to demand more out of squier right now.
I'd hate to agree with you but you have a point . But that said I still think they could of done a better job with the Jazzies and Jags . That bridge is just half ass. A TOM would of been bounds better . I'm really digging that Cyclone though . Some here are saying the shape's not right or the truss rod looks odd but I think they might need to check their monitors .
I would love to see a Squier Mustang but something tells me they'll fuck it up....
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:28 pm
by stewart
if they can produce the mascis jazzy for the price they have, to as high a spec as it looks, there's absolutely no reason they can't do a reasonable faithful mustang or duo-sonic II (WITHOUT a strat hardtail).
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:20 pm
by honeyiscool
Normally I'd be like, yeah they'd fuck it up somehow but looking at the Mascis, I don't see why they wouldn't do a good job on a new guitar.
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 7:59 pm
by othomas2
Imagine, a faithful classic vibe Mustang !!! Imagine !!!!!!!!!
They wouldn't even be able to f**k with the trem positioning.
Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:55 pm
by louis
Do want Squire Toronado, the old ones, not the stripey shite.
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:24 am
by BillClay
honeyiscool wrote:Normally I'd be like, yeah they'd fuck it up somehow but looking at the Mascis, I don't see why they wouldn't do a good job on a new guitar.
Thing is, that's an artist model, and J. isn't gonna be like "oh you guys wanna make a shit guitar with a bunch of misplaced strat parts that has nothing to do with my signature instrument and slap my name on it? Sure, sounds great."
I have no doubt fender spent months pleading with J. to let them release a Squier J. Mascis Jazzmaster w/ strat jack and bridge and humbuckers with no rhythm circuit, but he probably just kept tellinng them naw until they realized the only way they'd get him to sign off would be to release a cheaper version of his existing guitar.
I don't think fender is interested in making a bunch of vintage spec squiers, the Mascis squier is just a fluke, a concession they had to make to use his name which is somehow proving valuable. I'm pretty sure more Mascis jazzies have been sold than Costello, Renaldo or Thurston Moore's.
Squier is making some kickass fairly original shit right now, but I don't think we should start expecting to see a bunch of squier mustangs with proper trems and bridges and jaguars with strangle switches and rhythm circuits.
I think for the most part they're gonna stick with whats been working best for them, so get ready for Broncos with strat trems and humbucker bridges.
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:35 am
by laterallateral
Do an CV spec Super Sonic with three slanted singles and an JM trem!
Dare ya, Squier.
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:09 pm
by Pens
God. I would hope that if Squier did Stangs and Jaguar's they wouldn't put retarded ass strangle switches and vintage clones.
Part of what is decent about the Squier stuff is that it's not just a carbon copy of the Vintage correct bullshit.
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:32 pm
by DanHeron
A musicmaster/bronco that was actually routed for 2 pickups would be really cool.
Re: With Squier on a roll, can we get a Musicmaster or a Bro
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 5:23 pm
by speedfish
deaner33 wrote:please? Both would be even nicer...
That would be awesome, then we'd have a spare parts for our vintage broncos, but I can't imagine them tooling up to recreate the Bronco tremolo. Can you?
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:18 pm
by paul_
speedfish wrote:but I can't imagine them tooling up to recreate the Bronco tremolo. Can you?
+1
Squier don't even make much hardware themselves, I guess they engrave their logo on neckplates but that's probably about it... so unless someone else is knocking off Bronco trems for bulk sale out East, that model is outta luck. The Mascis JM exists because JMs and Jags are becoming more frequent targets for Fender copy companies, and so the asian guitar market is flooded with versions of their trems and bridges just like Strat/Tele parts have been everywhere for the last 30 or so.
A faithful Squier Mustang is far more feasible, as there are already knock-off Stang trems made by the types who make the tailpieces that are on the Mascis. In fact, I'm certain there will be a faithful (well, shitty neck specs) Squier Mustang.
Also apart from reminding me how to girlishly giggle with glee, I don't personally see why Fender/Squier would ever need to make an MM or Bronco ever again. It's not like they'd be noticeably cheaper than the Duo or Stangs in today's market, so pretty obsolete.
Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:45 pm
by Pens
Remaking those guitars using more modern "shit that works" rather than vintage "shit that was a bad idea". I do not understand the people on this board who cry about things not being "vintage correct". If shit was a stupid idea, then let's not remake that mistake.