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Boy, I'm A Lucky B*stard....

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:51 pm
by JohnnyTheBoy
Well i recon i've gotta be the luckiest bastard in Warwickshire at the minute!
I've just turned 39 (that's not fackin lucky) so i had £40 left of my b'day money burning a hole in my wallet... :roll:

Here's the story....

My ex-bassplayer told me his father-in-law (who tinkers a bit in valves/guitars etc) had an "Old Amp" that he was selling
cause it was "getting in his way..and cluttering his shed up"..so being the decent chap i am, i suggested my mate have a look at it in case
it was something rediculous like a Fender Bassman or an old Marshall or something...and then if it was to buy it so he could prob sell it on ebay and then split the winnings between him and his dad-in-law....and to let me know what it was....
"It's an...uhhmm..Fender..Bandmaster Head thingy.., i've offered him £30 but he wants £40..it's pretty beat up, and doesnt work..might need a bit of fettling", said he...
So i started googling...Bandmaster...oooohhhh they only made those between 1950's-1970's....might be worth having a look...new cap kit costs £50...might need new power transformer..dunno till i check it out...bet its a late one...hhhmmm project looming!!

So i give him a bell...."yeh come over now if you want, i want rid of it..its in my way in the shed"
I'm there in 20 mins....

I knew as soon as i saw it it was an earlier one..the Fender logo had the tail at the bottom...that dated it roughly before the "tailless" period in 1973...hubba hubba!...it's probably as old as me ha ha!!
Anyway, as we chat its apparent the damn thing works!..(thankfully my mate got it wrong)...he grabs his les paul from the house and treats me to some
"60's i really was there" dick-dale-del-tones-surf-pluckering..thru some dodgy busted-up speakers on his bench...
I've gotta say ive not heard anything quite like it!...the vibrato circuit he was plugged into was fantastic...the amp so clean!!

Okay, it is slightly beaten up..has been fiddled with, has had a powerconnector put in the side due to the original dangerously touching the chassis :shock: , and other crazy stuff.."I've put a spring reverb into it"...stuff like that....but what a piece of history!!....

"You do realise as its working you could get hundreds for this on ebay", i told him..."yeh...but i want you to have it..£40...i know it's going to a good home then, you're as bad as me with your guitar affliction", he replied..."i cant be arsed with ebay"...
Oh shit....the hairs on my neck are still standing up..is my trouser buldge that obvious??....."ok heres my £40, i will promise you it's not going to leave my possession..EVER!"...and with that i took the holy grail home....BIG THANKYOU TO JOHN FOR SELLING HER!

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So there she is...its an LH dated (August 1962) Blonde Bandmaster...the chassis (55231) between 49000 to 58000 dates to 1962..
The circuit is an 6G7-A circuit (the 6G7 is clear on the label, with an "A" pencilled in) this was used in several Fender amps, including the Bandmaster. It produces 40 watts into 4 ohms. This circuit was used from 1961 until July of 1963.....

But it's NOT BLONDE!..What's going on there?...i've since realised it's definitely a blonde that has (like a lot of these amps) been sprayed black due to the time when Fender released Black tolex, and blonde owners wanted to play down the blonde colour...SEEMS A BIT BLONDE TO ME!!! Also have discovered a flap of blonde tolex inside the amp with a spray line on it!....you can see the blonde wearing thru as it has aged!....
And at some point the knobs have been replaced..probably cosmetically as well!..that is something i've gotta change!! fender still make em and ebay can sort me out..9 knobs for £20 + Postage...i wanna get that black shit off the blonde too at some point!...
This guy has done it to his and it looks fab!!...

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I've dated the output trans 126A6A 606 2 22 (Schumacher 1962 wk 22),
the choke trans 125C1A 606 2 21 (Schumacher 1962 wk 21)
the reverb trans is 022921 606 9 21 (Schumacher 1969 wk 21)...
And these correspond to the 6G7A circuit, but it's clear the reverb circuit has been added after 1969 as the 6G7A doesnt have reverb..

The only other thing that's baffling me (no pun intended), is the Grille covering and the Fender logo...
they both look original, but i'm thinking my blonde should have an earlier logo like the one on the right...
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Anyway, there's some things i wanna do to get it back to original spec like change the handle to match the previous holes, swap the knobs out, and get that black shit off the blonde tolex...oh! and ive gotta get/make another speaker/cab, as this head is only 40watts at 4ohm output, and my homebrew 2 x 12 cab is 200watts at 7.5ohms (both 100w 15ohm Celestions in parallel)...
My alternative is to sell my Celestion cab speakers and get 8ohm equivalents, wire them in parallel for 4ohm output and then i could use them with both my 100w head and this new one!....that might be the winner ;)

Lemme know your thoughts on everything!...sorry cant do an demo yet as i dont have a web cam or 4ohm speaker....
Regards Johnny....

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:31 pm
by lorez
happy xmas johnny

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:37 pm
by JohnnyTheBoy
Cheers Lorez!...it's all my burfday and xmas's for the next 30 years i recon...

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:06 pm
by Thom
£40?!!!! :shock: Bastard! But congrats - that's one hell of a deal.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:32 pm
by Viljami
That's (almost) better than winning the lottery.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:39 pm
by Pens
Holy fuck. That's like $80 in real money which is retarded for that kind of vintage amp, especially since old Fender stuff is rare over in UKland.

That's a damn steal, man. DEMO?

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:42 pm
by lorez
btw I call dibs if your flipping it, did you say a 50% markup ;)

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:19 pm
by Fran
Thom wrote:£40?!!!! :shock: Bastard! But congrats - that's one hell of a deal.

^This! :lol:

Well done Johnny!

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:32 pm
by BillClay
good on you dude!

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:48 pm
by stewart
FUCK

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:09 pm
by louis
Pens wrote:Holy fuck. That's like $80 in real money which is retarded for that kind of vintage amp, especially since old Fender stuff is rare over in UKland.

That's a damn steal, man. DEMO?
on a "money in your pocket" sort of way its $40. you pay $1 for a bottle of coke, we pay £1, he pays £40 for an awesome piece of kit, you would (if you were also a jammy bastard) pay $40.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:04 pm
by JohnnyTheBoy
Cheers all for the goodwill comments! I'd be bloody jealous of myself if it..errr...wasn't me that scored it!
Do you think I should clean it up back to blonde, or leave it as is with it's mojo patina, and just play the shit outta it?
Comments pleeze people...

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 7:18 pm
by stewart
i'd leave it, but i'm also lazy.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:18 pm
by lorez
stewart wrote:i'd leave it, but i'm also lazy.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:31 pm
by Pens
louis wrote:
Pens wrote:Holy fuck. That's like $80 in real money which is retarded for that kind of vintage amp, especially since old Fender stuff is rare over in UKland.

That's a damn steal, man. DEMO?
on a "money in your pocket" sort of way its $40. you pay $1 for a bottle of coke, we pay £1, he pays £40 for an awesome piece of kit, you would (if you were also a jammy bastard) pay $40.
Even worse! Those things go for at least $400 here.

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:15 pm
by NickS
Congratulations!

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:11 am
by JohnnyTheBoy
stewart wrote:i'd leave it, but i'm also lazy.
Yeh i could do that, but i definitely gotta change the knobs out..and the white ones will have to do!!..and that may make it look odd..we shall see :wink:
Pens wrote:Even worse! Those things go for at least $400 here.
Holy crap!...well im not too sure if its worth that as its been messed with, but shit!..i think this one's a keeper...
I was expecting to shell out for a re-cap n stuff but again ill have to try it and see how it sounds..prob a wise move re-capping it if they're leaking...
NickS wrote:Congratulations!
cheers nick!..I really do feel humbled to have scored it!...
Its history is that it belonged to a pro musician, and John who i got it from had a Bro-deal on it..so he did the same for me :wink:

I really cant wait to try it..ive got band rehearsal tonite so i may take it along!..if i do ill try n get some sondzzzz 8)

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:27 am
by robroe
so rad

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:51 am
by AaronGuitarDude
an amp for 40 quid... that is soooooooooo cheap. don't let it get stolen though.

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 3:04 pm
by hotrodperlmutter
cripes

'mazin deal