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Anyone using a rollerbridge on a Classic Player Jaguar?
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:04 pm
by gypsyseven
I was thinking about getting one, maybe....
What are the pros and cons on a rollerbridge on a Classic Player Jaguar?
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:19 pm
by honeyiscool
Good luck trying to find it in 9.5" radius.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:23 pm
by Cvillethug
To me the roller didn't feel quite as stable and definitely pops strings off the saddles more than the regular TOM. I did like how it sounded a little better, not quite as percussive and the attack seemed softer or something. It didn't seem to do anything as far as trem operation goes.
They're really cheap on guitar fetish so I say you might as well try it out.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:48 pm
by gypsyseven
honeyiscool wrote:Good luck trying to find it in 9.5" radius.
Why not?!
http://www.guitarfetish.com/Roller-Brid ... p_661.html#
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:54 pm
by avj
I am, and it's rad. The radius disparity between 9.5" and what is likely close to 12" on the one linked below is negligible and certainly not as noticeable as, say, using that bridge on a vintage-spec 7.25" radius. I use that exact one and it's a simple drop-in; no bubbles, no troubles. I threw one on both my CP Jag and CP JM and haven't looked back. I found no issue with string pops with 11s on the Jag and 10s on the JM, and I play the absolute piss out of both. I found trem action to be improved, as the AOM bridge doesn't really rock in the thimbles like a traditional Jag/JM bridge does because the posts screw in. This means you're just pulling the strings back and forth in the grooves on the stock bridge, which of course can lead to tuning issues if they're not lubed up properly.
Roller Bridge Chrome plated fits Les Paul @ GFS
Also, as a new CP Jaguar owner, let me point you to this gem of wisdom curated by dearest Dave, me, and several others:
Fender Jaguar Classic Player: Quest for the Amber Switch Tip
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:05 pm
by gypsyseven
avj wrote:I am, and it's rad. The radius disparity between 9.5" and what is likely close to 12" on the one linked below is negligible and certainly not as noticeable as, say, using that bridge on a vintage-spec 7.25" radius. I use that exact one and it's a simple drop-in; no bubbles, no troubles. I threw one on both my CP Jag and CP JM and haven't looked back. I found no issue with string pops with 11s on the Jag and 10s on the JM, and I play the absolute piss out of both. I found trem action to be improved, as the AOM bridge doesn't really rock in the thimbles like a traditional Jag/JM bridge does because the posts screw in. This means you're just pulling the strings back and forth in the grooves on the stock bridge, which of course can lead to tuning issues if they're not lubed up properly.
Roller Bridge Chrome plated fits Les Paul @ GFS
Also, as a new CP Jaguar owner, let me point you to this gem of wisdom curated by dearest Dave, me, and several others:
Fender Jaguar Classic Player: Quest for the Amber Switch Tip
Thanks mate!
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:21 pm
by ekwatts
I use one on my Japanese Jaguar, the chunky Wilkinson one rather than the TOM-style one. It works fine, the strings don't pop out at all, it's a good bridge. The radius difference makes absolutely fuck-all difference though I have my Jag set up with a fairly medium string height so the different really isn't noticeable. I guess if you want the strings so low that you can do Yngwie tapping solos then it might make a difference, but then you're a cunt so fuck you.
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:31 pm
by gypsyseven
ekwatts wrote:...but then you're a cunt so fuck you.
Thanks a lot, especially to be so honest with me...
I always prefer/ set my guitars with medium action.I´m strumming very hard and don´t wanna hear any buzz when playing my guitars unplugged...
Re: Anyone using a rollerbridge on a Classic Player Jaguar?
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:34 pm
by MMPicker
gypsyseven wrote:I was thinking about getting one, maybe....
Why? Are you having some issue with your AOM? Mine works fine, no problems.
BTW I put a strat trem spring under the screw-in trem arm, now my trem stays where I want it, and works just fine. As does the bridge in all other respects. YMMV.
Re: Anyone using a rollerbridge on a Classic Player Jaguar?
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:45 pm
by avj
MMPicker wrote:gypsyseven wrote:I was thinking about getting one, maybe....
Why? Are you having some issue with your AOM? Mine works fine, no problems.
BTW I put a strat trem spring under the screw-in trem arm, now my trem stays where I want it, and works just fine. As does the bridge in all other respects. YMMV.
Great idea! I usually like mine flopping around all limpy (as noted in the
Quest thread above), but I'm going to give that a try and see how it feels.
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:45 am
by Joey
My Fender Flame came stock with the Schaller Roller Bridge. I enjoy it, don't have a tremolo on the guitar though. The Flame & Esprit dissolved and became the Robben Ford model. Ford said the rollers lacked tone and swapped em out for TOM's.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:26 pm
by Loco3
Oh yeah!
Just put a Mosrite roller bridge on my CP Jag, fat chunky rollers, bridge solid as, really nice, radius is supposedly 9" but it seems to match the 9 1/2" fingerboard exactly.
Same post spacing as standard but only 2" string spacing though, which luckily I like.
Needed to shim the neck, but well worth it. Great tone, great sustain, trem feels great, stays in tune.
I tried reaming out the CP thimbles and fitted the Mosrite thimbles inside them, but not quite enough intonation adjustment on the 1st str. so took out the CP thimbles and moved the Mosrite thimbles forward in the hole, filled the rest with epoxy putty for now, still just barely enough adjustment, I will eventually plug and re-drill a little further forward when I re-fin.
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:30 pm
by Dave
Sweet where did you get the Mos bridge?
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 11:30 pm
by Loco3
Dave wrote:Sweet where did you get the Mos bridge?
The fleabay, only $25, cheap enough to try, would probably need half a deck of cards in the neck pocket if you wanted to use a mute though, as the bridge is a touch higher than stock.
Cheers, Steve
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:34 am
by aen
friend of mine had one on a Jazzmaster project, and I did not like it one bit!
The little wheelies on it were way too small to hold the lowest two strings. Sure, maybe the trem's action was a little smoother, but it didnt matter, because as soon as you gave your strum any guts at all it was flying E-string city.
I imagine it might be a little better with the trem a little closer to the bridge on the CP, but as far as I'm concerned (yes, I'll say it again) the CP jag is the closest to perfect Jag. The only reason I have an AV jag is because i was offered an INSANE deal on it, and it was already tricked out with a buzz stop, mustang bridge, and 3 way toggle. The CP trem always seemed rock solid to me, and just as smooth as the AV.
avj wrote:I am, and it's rad. The radius disparity between 9.5" and what is likely close to 12" on the one linked below is negligible and certainly not as noticeable as, say, using that bridge on a vintage-spec 7.25" radius. I use that exact one and it's a simple drop-in; no bubbles, no troubles. I threw one on both my CP Jag and CP JM and haven't looked back. I found no issue with string pops with 11s on the Jag and 10s on the JM, and I play the absolute piss out of both. I found trem action to be improved, as the AOM bridge doesn't really rock in the thimbles like a traditional Jag/JM bridge does because the posts screw in.
This is encouraging, though. I wouldnt make the change, but it looks like it works for mr. avj.