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Why spend so much on a lame trendy amp when you can get all this for $250?

Musicman HD-130 in some sort of strange custom shit, with speakers that sound shit.



Epiphone Futura 4x10 combo (project)



Altec 1215A Folded Horn Speaker (it's big and still in my van)



Seriously, get out there and find some fucking deals. No reason to blow money on BABY AMPS.

Damn, if that Guass speaker is in good shape, it can go for a bit on the ebays.

I love everything you posted.
I'll take an amp with character (that more or less works) over something new any day.

Past scores:
Acetone Bass-9 Bass Head $25
Traynor YGA 50 watt Tube Head $110 (with 4x10 cab)
Ampeg V4 $200

Ontario's got some decent stuff...

'72 Bassman 50 - $250

Nevar looked back.

Though there is a 20w all tube Univox U255R on CL I might snag. 2x12 reverb and trem

I love finding useful shit for cheap.

Looks like that "SG Systems" combo cab is from CMI Electronics

http://forum.frugalguitarist.com/yaf_po ... G-212.aspx

BTW. This dude has 4 FUCKING BASSMAN TENS, 1 QUAD REVERB, 1 SUPER REVERB, 1 TWIN REVERB - AND A FUCKING SHIT TON MORE AMPS I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER. Shit everywhere and I'm def gonna try to not eat to save money, go back, and get more deals. I missed the 6x1 Sunn bass cab, and I only meant to buy the Altec cab, but brought extra cash.

No deals to be found on amps down here. Fuckers hold their value.

If you live in PR and want a safe investment, buy amps. And lefty guitars.

I have an Epi Futura that was converted to a 15" speaker back in the way back.

well, damn looks like the epiphone went out violently and ended up an unfinished project.

Trying to find the correct schematic for the Epiphone, apparently there are a few different versions that share the same circuit as some gibson amps. I'm thinking the Gibson GA-30RV is closest. Gotta check. Here's a pic from the 1966 catalog:

So hold on, your question is why would anyone want to buy a new budget line tube amp when you could get an old one that has tons of problems and needs tons of work before it's as reliable as one of the new ones?

for the price of one of those micro terrors, though, i got a '73 bassman 100 with zero technical defects. do your research, of course. . .

Some people don't feel like cruising classifieds and pawn shops for something that you hope has no problems. Also newer amps are usually easier to take care of. I don't have a problem with lunchbox amps at all. I don't think anyone's made a truly great one, yet, but someone will, and then it'll be a lot of fun carrying a 20 pound head that slays.

Billy3000 wrote:So hold on, your question is why would anyone want to buy a new budget line tube amp when you could get an old one that has tons of problems and needs tons of work before it's as reliable as one of the new ones?

No, I'm saying I got a fully operational Music Man HD-130, a fully operational Altec folded horn cab with 15" altec woofer, an Epiphone amp from 1966-67 that needs work, 6 guitar speakers, and two cabinets for about the price of a new amp.

Sloan wrote:

Billy3000 wrote:So hold on, your question is why would anyone want to buy a new budget line tube amp when you could get an old one that has tons of problems and needs tons of work before it's as reliable as one of the new ones?

No, I'm saying I got a fully operational Music Man HD-130, a fully operational Altec folded horn cab with 15" altec woofer, an Epiphone amp from 1966-67 that needs work, 6 guitar speakers, and two cabinets for about the price of a new amp.

Yea, but as you said in your original post the music man has shitty speakers that need to be replaced, and a weird cab, and the epiphone needs a lot of work. Yea it's the price of a new amp for both of those things, but they both need work to be in condition that most people would actually consider worthwhile alternatives to new amps.

As dots said, there are deals out there to be had on good amps with zero problems, I just don't think you gave good examples.

Not to mention that those amps are HUUUUGE in comparison.

Billy3000 wrote:

Sloan wrote:

Billy3000 wrote:So hold on, your question is why would anyone want to buy a new budget line tube amp when you could get an old one that has tons of problems and needs tons of work before it's as reliable as one of the new ones?

No, I'm saying I got a fully operational Music Man HD-130, a fully operational Altec folded horn cab with 15" altec woofer, an Epiphone amp from 1966-67 that needs work, 6 guitar speakers, and two cabinets for about the price of a new amp.

Yea, but as you said in your original post the music man has shitty speakers that need to be replaced, and a weird cab, and the epiphone needs a lot of work. Yea it's the price of a new amp for both of those things, but they both need work to be in condition that most people would actually consider worthwhile alternatives to new amps.

As dots said, there are deals out there to be had on good amps with zero problems, I just don't think you gave good examples.

the speakers are a bonus!

I paid $300 for this mid 60's Hilgen Challenger tube 1x12 combo amp. Not sure on wattage but it's loud enough to play a small club without being mic'd. Probably somewhere between 15 and 25 watts tube. I've used it in every application I can think of. It has built in footswitchable reverb and tremolo. Bright and normal inputs, it even has ACCORDION INPUTS. Two channels, each with its own tone and volume knobs.

^man that thing looks familiar, but i don't know the hilgen name.

It's quite similar to Ampegs in design...Hilgens were made in New Jersey about 5 miles down the road from the Ampeg factory

A few other amps around that era also did the silly string grill cloth