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Pawn Shop Mustang trem mod?

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:02 pm
by Ankhanu
My local music store (yeah, we pretty much have just one) finally got a Pawn Shop Mustang in, and I was able to give it a shot. First off, I pretty much LOVED it, to the point that I actually plugged it in to an amp to try it (I almost never plug in in a store)... and from there I quite liked the switching (though I would have liked an out-of-phase option) and was pleasantly surprised by the difference in the three coil options for each pickup. I was expecting less variation between inner and outer coil tones, but they were pretty distinct!

My only real complaint with the Pawn Shop was the bridge. This got me wondering if anyone's tried to install a proper Mustang bridge/trem on a Pawn Shop?? I didn't quickly find anything in a search, and I imagine the string-through factor might mess up the plan a bit... but a proper Mustang trem would make it a pretty awesome guitar.

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:24 pm
by SKC Willie
it wouldn't be overly complex but you need to route out a couple of pretty big holes behind the bridge which would make it irreversible and something that someone with zero routing experience could make look professional.

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:34 pm
by Mages
you should just put a toronado bridge on it. I'm pretty sure that they were string through.

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:35 pm
by Mages
yeah

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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:35 pm
by endsjustifymeans
Mages wrote:you should just put a toronado bridge on it. I'm pretty sure that they were string through.
yep. put one on my duo-sonic.

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:44 pm
by Mages
and if it's not obvious, I'm suggesting this because of how it's designed after the duo-sonic/musicmaster bridge

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so it fits well on the guitar.

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:06 pm
by SGJarrod
i think it would be pretty easy to do..... these Mustang Specials really are lovely.... I would so have the LPB one if it would not make me look like a giant...the body is just to small for my 6'3" 230lb frame

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:14 pm
by Ankhanu
Mages wrote:you should just put a toronado bridge on it. I'm pretty sure that they were string through.
Yeah, this is something that I commented on with the first pictures released before the guitar hit stores.


But, I'm talking about the trem specifically. I've gotten used to having one on my Jag, and while testing this guy out, I found myself wishing I could do some trem system vibrato.
Hard tail is fine (if changed to a Toronado/DuoII bridge), but I really like the Mustang trem!

Was mostly curious if anyone had made this mod already, or if the body was maybe too thin for the trem routes or what have you.

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:22 pm
by Ankhanu
SGJarrod wrote:i think it would be pretty easy to do..... these Mustang Specials really are lovely.... I would so have the LPB one if it would not make me look like a giant...the body is just to small for my 6'3" 230lb frame
Yeah, it's the LPB one that I played. It was absolutely gorgeous. I'm only 5'10", so, while small, wouldn't look TOO small :)
I have some reservations about the appearance of the shortened back end with the Trem plate in place, but, I don't think it'd look too crowded.

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:32 pm
by Leisureclub
I'll bet that they're too new for somebody to have tried adding a trem. It's possible of course, just lots of routing. I do however think that they're probably too thin to do a strat type system. Maybe a Kahler flush mount would be the easiest as far as routing? I'm not sure.

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:44 pm
by kypdurron
easiest may be a top mounted bigsby style system, but would still require some woodwork.

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:36 am
by Rox
kypdurron wrote:easiest may be a top mounted bigsby style system, but would still require some woodwork.


I would say that would be the best bet . A tune-o-matic with a Bigsby . Be a lot like the Fano MG6 ..


http://www.fanoguitars.com/altdefactoMG6.html

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:23 pm
by Holy Schnikes
Swapped Strat hardtail bridge on my Mustang with a string through Toronado model. Cosmetic reasons really but also a chance to attempt the mod. The baseplate on the stock bridge is twice as thick as the Toronado's but it worked out perfectly, setup way better than before honestly. Go figure. I found the bridge new on eBay for $20 shipped. They're stocked at GuitarPartsResource too I think. Came with Fender "stamped" bent steel saddles which seem fine but I had the Callaham stuff hanging around from an older Mexican Tele so went with those.

As for install, the string-through holes matched up perfectly but not a drop-in job as far as mounting. Still an easy mod, no screw holes overlapping or anything, just plugged the old holes and drilled the new. The stock bridge has 3 mounting screws only, located in a line near the rear of the bridge. The Toronado has five, 2 near the rear (perfectly spaced between the original holes) and 3 in front of the saddles.

For some reason, the front holes weren't countersunk on the new bridge plate while the rear pair was. This was a problem as my saddles had to scoot over those screws to for intonation. Patiently, I used a basic countersink bit and drilled away, again slowly, until I the flathead phillips screws would sit just below the surface. Other than that, easy as could be.

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Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:27 pm
by honeyiscool
That looks very well done.

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:28 pm
by jcyphe
That looks so much better.

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:32 pm
by Fran
jcyphe wrote:That looks so much better.

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:33 pm
by Holy Schnikes
Thanks!

Fender must be trying to get rid of a Strat hardtail surplus because this is obviously the correct bridge for this guitar.

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:38 pm
by othomas2
That's awesome, good job !!

Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:31 pm
by Ankhanu
Holy Schnikes wrote:Thanks!

Fender must be trying to get rid of a Strat hardtail surplus because this is obviously the correct bridge for this guitar.
This is definitely what the guitar should have been, if it had to be hard tail instead of a trem!
Beautiful!

Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:21 am
by Phil O'Keefe
That turned out really nice - thanks for letting us know that it works, and the things to watch out for. :)