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"Fifty Guitars You Must Play Before You Die"... http://www.musicradar.com/news/acous...e-198927/1#!16

...and found this little nugget:

"Gibson ES-135... The result of an illicit liaison between an ES-175 and an ES-335, this semi is an unsung hero. It has a solid centre section, but with a two-and-a-quarter-inch body depth. Go for the one with f-holes and P-100 pickups: brilliant for rock 'n' roll, jazz, fusion..."

When I was confirming that my older Les Paul Special did indeed have P90s and not P100s, many people cautioned me that P100s were shite.

Interesting list, so what y'all make of this P100 thing

fuck p100s.

No musicman jp6? Worthless list.

and it has a trussart tele ranked higher than a '59 Les Paul. I mean, really?


there kind of list shouldn't even have a number 1. they should just list 50 in no order then maybe they wouldn't be as stupid.

I dont mind P100's, as long as you dont expect P90's they are decent pickups.
Will check list later..

I think this list was made by a tourist that visited one too many Hard Rock Cafes . AND he bought a tee shirt at every one of them... And wears them ... Or read too many GUITARPLAYER magazines ..

I had P100's in my les paul special, although I did end up replacing them they weren't that bad. If fender released all their strats with lace sensor pickups from now on imagine the fallout amongst the strat purists. I think this was the mistake that Gibson made as they replaced P90's with P100's on all their models and they just weren't the same. I reckon that P100's have an unfairly bad rep as a result as anyone who remembers the time was probably pissed Gibson axed P90's. I did replace them though so they obviously didn't do it for me!

SKC Willie wrote:and it has a trussart tele ranked higher than a '59 Les Paul. I mean, really?


there kind of list shouldn't even have a number 1. they should just list 50 in no order then maybe they wouldn't be as stupid.

They're in no particular order, and the best news is that price-wise, there's something here for everyone.

such a random stupid list full of countless guitars I have little to no inkling to play whatsoever and some that I just flat out wont be able to play for various reasons. this was very obviously made for no other reason than to draw traffic to their site (and conveniently point people in the direction of other guitar reviews on their site) with an article requiring as little effort as possible.

I really, really like the Studio Elite HD, I've seen it with some washed out effects and there crazy bonkers headstock shape, so fucking weird and cool. Shame they cost the earth. £500 - 700 option would be awesome, but probably wouldn't have the neck that the £3300 one..



I mean, look at that paint work mang, its craaazy mang.

mang.

I've messed with them. They're very nice, but literally have no soul.

Since 2004 or so, every Korean session dood I've known has a Tyler (mostly the burning Water finish), and after forking out about $3500 to purchase and pay import VAT, few ever let go of theirs. It's quite silly, but the herd mentality and need to have the assumed best in their backpack has sort of run it's course and stopped with Tylers. First it was souped-out '80s Ibanez superstrats, then early '90s Valley Arts, followed by Tom Andersons and Brian Moores. Even beating out the very popular Suhrs, Roger Tyler is apparently the ultimate...Though many have come to their senses and realized that a $1500 Moollon S-Classic is just as practical.

Joey wrote:

SKC Willie wrote:and it has a trussart tele ranked higher than a '59 Les Paul. I mean, really?


there kind of list shouldn't even have a number 1. they should just list 50 in no order then maybe they wouldn't be as stupid.

They're in no particular order, and the best news is that price-wise, there's something here for everyone.

yeah, but it's set up with numbers. It certainly gives the impression there is a number one and a number fifty.

That Dusenburg lapsteel with the pitch bars at number 4 is brilliant by the way.

I agree the list is a bit silly but what would you include if you were to make a similar list yourself?

James wrote:I agree the list is a bit silly but what would you include if you were to make a similar list yourself?

1. Gibson Moderne
2. Fender Marauder
3. 59 LP Standard
4. 59 Jazzmaster with amber switch tip
5. 63 Strat
6. 51 Broadcaster

Aren't these obvious?

is a Coronado and Starcaster on the list?

The problem is it's a top 50 list. There just aren't 50 types of guitars the vast majority of players will be further enriched by before they pass away, hence their inclusions of different years of the same models and so on (think you know telecasters? well your life is shit until you try one with a rhythm circuit and fuck-off thick neck like they used to do 'em... and then further shit until you try a very similar sounding/functioning single-pickup version from a few years later). They probably got 12 guitars into it and thought "well, fuck."

Any strat/tele knock-off, no matter how premium or respected, is pointless to include. They still feel/sound like some kind of Fender Strat/Tele and are therefore covered under "you really must try a Stratocaster before you die, old bean".
Which raises a more prevalent point: who teh flying Kurdtz plays guitar/is faced with their own mortality no less and has never, however briefly, played a goddamn stratocaster-or-copy via lack of opportunity to do so? I'd assume you grew up in prison if you approached one as brave new territory. I literally know 3 people who can't play guitar that have Strats.

James wrote:I agree the list is a bit silly but what would you include if you were to make a similar list yourself?

Ovation Tornado
Rickenbacker 330
Vox 12 string




FFS, the Yamaha Pacifica is not a must play guitar.

paul_ wrote: Which raises a more prevalent point: who teh flying Kurdtz plays guitar/is faced with their own mortality no less and has never, however briefly, played a goddamn stratocaster-or-copy via lack of opportunity to do so? I'd assume you grew up in prison if you approached one as brave new territory. I literally know 3 people who can't play guitar that have Strats.

this times forever.