"Fire Engine Red" Gibson Les Paul Special

[westtexasred]

Seeing red again!

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"Fire Engine Red" was a Melody Maker color in the 60s

[Sloan]

man, i wish they would put neck binding on these things. would fucking rule.

[robroe]

why would you buy a gutiar played by some dude that is ripping off Deftones ?


i don't even like Deftones. they are a BMX band. and me being a skater fag my whole life hates BMX kids and thier shitty drop C bullshit deftones.

[paul_]

man, i wish they would put neck binding on these things. would fucking rule.

+1

Wish they weren't so reluctant to bind reissue specials. Looks perfect.

[gypsyseven]

and me being a skater fag my whole life.

Cool, didn´t know that, I´m skating since about 20 years...ok, in the last 3 years i was only about ten times on my board...

[Sloan]

man, i wish they would put neck binding on these things. would fucking rule.

+1

Wish they weren't so reluctant to bind reissue specials. Looks perfect.

it's amazing what a difference just the neck binding makes. it looks awesome.

[westtexasred]

Sure,but that is $2000 Custom Shop like this (Link)

[paul_]

That's what I'm saying. It's too hard/expensive to find a reasonably priced one with neck binding, which is disappointing.

[westtexasred]

Your right,but still,this is a nice guitar.Even though it doesn't have binding on the neck the sides of the fretboard are lacquered and all the fret ends are very smooth.It's hard to tell from the photos but "Fire Engine Red" is a see through finish. It looks like it has a one piece body too .

[paul_]

I'd like to make it clear I wasn't knocking the guitar. After buying my Standard and playing it for 6 years I switched to a P90 Junior, which was like seeing the light, and now I have torturous dreams about SC Specials as a result and am pretty jealous, etc...

[westtexasred]

I'd like to make it clear I wasn't knocking the guitar. After buying my Standard and playing it for 6 years I switched to a P90 Junior, which was like seeing the light, and now I have torturous dreams about SC Specials as a result and am pretty jealous, etc...

Thanks,I wasn't offended. I love Les Paul Specials and Juniors too. Some day I'd like to get a double cut Les Paul Junior in TV Yellow Like Johnny Thunders. My college roommate used to be Johnny's manager after he left the Dolls.

[paul_]

Yeah, I love Thunders and the Dolls, my DC Junior was totally Johnny-inspired. Have you read this interview with Sylvain on the Gibson site about the Doll's Les Pauls? Amazing how two of his guitars became so indelibly associated with proto-punk icons.

http://www.gibson.com/en-us/lifestyle/f ... dolls-519/

“So listen to this,� Sylvain says, launching into the Thunders yarn. “We were doing well and finally convinced our managers to give us a budget to buy new guitars for me and Johnny. They said, ‘Okay, Johnny Thunders — he’s the lead guitar player so he gets a bigger budget: $800. Sylvain is only the rhythm guitar player’ — which is bullshit, because I taught Johnny how to play guitar, but that’s another story — so I only get $300 for my budget.

“Because I only have $300 I get that Yellow TV model and Johnny buys a Black Beauty at Dan Armstrong’s. Fast forward a little. We have a rehearsal scheduled, and before anybody else gets there I go in with the TV Model and plug it into a Marshall combo and, since I was by myself, turned it way up. If there’s one thing I’ve discovered it’s that nothing sounds better than a Gibson plugged into a Marshall. So I’m playing power chords, Chuck Berry solos, Keith Richards leads, and it sounds amazing. Johnny walks in, takes one look at my guitar and says, ‘I’ll trade you right now!’ So that’s how I got the Black Beauty and he got the TV model that are on the cover of our second album, Too Much Too Soon. And from then on, that model was his guitar."

And, according to Sylvain, another trade he made, swapping Malcolm McLaren a white Les Paul Custom for a plane ticket to England, helped launch the Sex Pistols.

“This happened when then band was really down,� Sylvain relates. “We had no money again and half of us were junkies. Just before the band broke up, Malcolm, who I’d met through my interest in the rag business (i.e., the fashion world), became our personal manager. He was a friend and a big fan of the Dolls, and Malcolm and his girlfriend owned a clothes shop called SEX on King’s Road in London. He said that if I gave him my white Les Paul Custom — it sounded so beautiful; it was a ’73 or ’74 with P-90 pickups and it had a sticker of a pin-up girl on it, which I did with a lot of my guitars — he would mail me back a plane ticket and build a new band around me in England.

“Well, the ticket never came, but he did mail my mother — because he couldn’t find my address — a seven-page handwritten letter that’s now in the Rock ‘n’ Roll Hall of Fame telling me he’d found this kid Johnny who hung out at his shop and couldn’t really sing but was better than Johansen so he could be the singer and all this stuff. Somehow, it never happened, and when I saw the Sex Pistols there was my white Les Paul with the pin-up sticker being played by Steve Jones. And that became his thing, the guitar with the pin-up girl — which was really my thing. But that’s the way things happen. It’s crazy sometimes.

Syl played some tasty bl00zrawk leads on the Steve Jones guitar on Don Kirschners Rock Concert '74. He must've been thinking of his black one when he said it had P90s.

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[NickS]

So now you've got the only two guitars you'll ever need, can I have dibs on the Swinger?



jk

[westtexasred]

Actually the Swinger is the only guitar I need.

I sent Gibson an email to ask about my Les Paul Special.

Gibson said the color is "Cinnamon"

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Thanks for the email. The pictures and serial number are consistent with a Les Paul Special model in Cinnamon finish, made on the 258th day of 1998 in Nashville, TN. Here are the specs-

Dimensions – 12 ¾� (W) x 17 ¼� (L) x 1 3/4� (D)

Body –Mahogany

Neck – 1 piece mahogany

Peghead pitch – 17 degrees

Fingerboard – 22-fret rosewood

Fretwire - 0.090� wide and 0.055� tall nickel/silver alloy

Fingerboard radius – 12�

Inlays – pearloid dot

Scale length – 24 ¾�

Nut width – 1 11/16�

Bridge – tune-o-matic (Nashville style)

Tailpiece – Stop bar

Hardware – chrome

Tuners – Gibson deluxe

Controls – 2 volume, 2 tone, 3-way toggle switch

Pickups – Dual P-100s

[Josh]

I'd like to make it clear I wasn't knocking the guitar. After buying my Standard and playing it for 6 years I switched to a P90 Junior, which was like seeing the light, and now I have torturous dreams about SC Specials as a result and am pretty jealous, etc...

Thanks,I wasn't offended. I love Les Paul Specials and Juniors too. Some day I'd like to get a double cut Les Paul Junior in TV Yellow Like Johnny Thunders. My college roommate used to be Johnny's manager after he left the Dolls.

woah, really? that's pretty awesome. also would love one of those guitars as well, big thunders fan. haha

[Dave]

why would you buy a gutiar played by some dude that is ripping off Deftones ?


i don't even like Deftones. they are a BMX band. and me being a skater fag my whole life hates BMX kids and thier shitty drop C bullshit deftones.

i hate them because they are unbelievably fucking booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooring. In fact if you play their music at twice the speed it actually sounds alright.