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Pawn shop mustang wiring

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:48 am
by BillClay
Does anybody have a wiring diagram or even just a picture of the inside of the pick guard? Fender doesn't have one and I can't for the life of me figure how to wire a split/series/split to a mustang switch. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:09 am
by Mattsican
I had ripped mine open and took some pics, but none of the back of the pick guard. just the 3 way toggle once i had it removed. so probably not that helpful

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:26 am
by BillClay
Thanks man, but I need to see the back of the mustang switches. You wouldn't happen to be planning on changing strings in the near future would you? Maybe snap a pic then? You would literally be the first person on the Internet to reveal how these things are wired.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:12 pm
by Mattsican
I'll snap a few later on today. I tried to swap out the three way switch before and it turned into a total botched job... the replacement was just a tiny tiny tiny bit to big and it the pick guard wouldnt screw down properly. so i had to take it out, attempt to bend and fix the original, just to find that fender left absolutely no extra wire when they originally wired so i barely had enough room to solder it back in. so i gotta see what kinda wire they used so i can buy more wire, new switch and fix it again. So just ignore the shitty switch work haha

Re: Pawn shop mustang wiring

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:24 pm
by iCEByTes
BillClay wrote:Does anybody have a wiring diagram or even just a picture of the inside of the pick guard? Fender doesn't have one and I can't for the life of me figure how to wire a split/series/split to a mustang switch. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Pawn shop mustang wiring

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:24 pm
by Mattsican
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BillClay wrote:Does anybody have a wiring diagram or even just a picture of the inside of the pick guard? Fender doesn't have one and I can't for the life of me figure how to wire a split/series/split to a mustang switch. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Isn't that a diagram/pic from a regular mustang? From what i understand the PS Mustang switches do different things than your standard switch. Mine (as far as i know) does outside coil/both coils/inside coil for each pickup

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:04 pm
by honeyiscool
Split/Series/Split is a pretty awesome option. I did it on my Kurt Cobain bridge humbucker. I don't know how the PS Mustang does it, but here's how I do it:

Using standard Seymour Duncan colors... here's the switch:

1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8

Wire the coil split pair (red and white) to 6, then a short wire from 6 to 7. Connect the pickup hot (black) and output hot to 8, and pickup ground (green), shield, and output ground to 5.

Since you're only using half the switch, you can actually do split/series/split on two pickups at once using this switch, leaving you the other switch for bridge/middle/neck, etc. If you're making a double split, unless you have a specially made reverse polarity neck pickup (practically never), I suggest using the reverse wiring option, which means using black and green as coil split to 6, short wire from 6 to 7, using red as pickup hot and output hot at 8, and using white as pickup ground, shield, and output to 5. This is cool because then if both pickups are on, it stays hum canceling no matter where the split is.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:05 pm
by BillClay
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yeah, I appreciate the pics, but that wiring won't work for the pawnshop stang, I'm looking for single/bucker/single.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:10 pm
by honeyiscool
Does PS Mustang have one of those three wire humbucker pickups that I sometimes see from Fender?

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:24 pm
by BillClay
4 wires.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:29 pm
by honeyiscool
Then what I said will work. What you have to do is figure out which colors correspond to which.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:50 pm
by BillClay
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I wasn't saying yours wouldn't work, I was saying Icey's wouldn't. I'm confused though, you say I'm only using half the switch, but how is that possible? I'm using all three positions to get single/humbucker/single?

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:35 pm
by honeyiscool
You only need half the switch, as in pick the bottom or the top terminals.

Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:07 pm
by Mattsican
Here are pics from the inside of my PS Mustang. I tried to get a few different angles. Hope this helps.

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Theres a couple more if you browse thru the imageshack pics

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:40 am
by BillClay
Dude you may have saved my life, any chance you have any more pics with the black wires moved aside so you can see all of the lugs?

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:07 am
by honeyiscool
Only the bottom row of the lugs is used, as I've tried to say.

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:28 am
by Mattsican
honeyiscool wrote:Only the bottom row of the lugs is used, as I've tried to say.
he is right, none of the top row of lugs is being used. i took about 15 pics, ill see if there are any alternate angles and post what i got.

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:35 am
by Mattsican
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:36 am
by Mattsican
thats pretty much all the usable pics i took. the others are either blurry or too far back.

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:57 am
by robroe
this one is blowing my fucking mind !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

if you don't use all those lugs wtf is the point of even making a switch with them?

its cheaper to buy a 8 terminal switchcraft than make your own 4 terminal version ?