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Zaphod1989 - My Bloddy Valentine Guitar Sound
Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:20 pm
by gerrydaly
Hi, this email is about the 'To Here Knows When' youtube video posted by Zaphod1989.
Zaphod1989 created a MBV guitar sound with only two pedals: EHX Memory man with Hazari and Dan Electro Transparent Overdrive.
The sound Zaphod1989 created is totally amazing. I bought the exact same two pedals with the hope that I would be able to re-create his sound, but unfortunatley I cannot even get close...
I adjusted the knobs on my EHX memory man with Hazari to match what I seen in Zaphod1989's video, but they seem to be totally different, maybe he loaded a preset or something, I'm not really sure....
Anyway, the video has got over 40,000 hits, so maybe somebody out there has been able to figure out the settings Zaphod1989 used in his video?
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!
Gerry.
Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:33 pm
by stewart
not seen reece round here for a while, could facebook message him if you like.
although i think the gliding trem playing on his jag is what makes the sound.
Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 8:43 pm
by benecol
You have to buy the SMMh from me from it to work properly. I put those noises in there, he just mimes.
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:25 pm
by markeeee
Right. So first of all, select one of the 'multi-tap' modes using the white knob. For the tim being, set he mix to 12o'clock.
Now, using the decay knob, the multi tap modes give you control over what happens o the delay repeats. Left of 12 o'clock means they will decrease in volume, as you might expect from a delay. Right of 12 o' clock means they will get progressively louder. This is key, ' cos what you are doing here is replicating reverse reverb. Set it to about 3 o'clock.
Leave the filter control in the middle. I don't think it particularly matters, but you can play with it later.
Set the repeats at about 3 o'clock. There's a relationship between this and the decay.
Now set the delay time fairly short. It might help to use the shortest multi-tap mode. I use the '+rev' one, myself. You need to set it so you hear it almost 'purr', with the repeats getting progressively louder over say, a second.
I hop that makes sense. Basically, you're making a very short multi-tap delay that starts quiet ad gets louder - a simple reverse reverb really. Once you get it set right, it's really good. I removed my Digiverb from my pedalboard in the end, ' cos the SMM did su a good job of doing the Kevin Shields thing.
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:30 am
by markeeee
I can spell, by the way. It's just that I wrote that last night - yes, I was slightly drunk - on an iPad keyboard.
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 8:36 pm
by gerrydaly
Wow, thanks Markeeee- just getting to read your message now...I will try this out tomorrow and let you know the result, thanks once again for taking the time out to reply to my post, as my SMM with Hazari almost went on Ebay!
markeeee wrote:Right. So first of all, select one of the 'multi-tap' modes using the white knob. For the tim being, set he mix to 12o'clock.
Now, using the decay knob, the multi tap modes give you control over what happens o the delay repeats. Left of 12 o'clock means they will decrease in volume, as you might expect from a delay. Right of 12 o' clock means they will get progressively louder. This is key, ' cos what you are doing here is replicating reverse reverb. Set it to about 3 o'clock.
Leave the filter control in the middle. I don't think it particularly matters, but you can play with it later.
Set the repeats at about 3 o'clock. There's a relationship between this and the decay.
Now set the delay time fairly short. It might help to use the shortest multi-tap mode. I use the '+rev' one, myself. You need to set it so you hear it almost 'purr', with the repeats getting progressively louder over say, a second.
I hop that makes sense. Basically, you're making a very short multi-tap delay that starts quiet ad gets louder - a simple reverse reverb really. Once you get it set right, it's really good. I removed my Digiverb from my pedalboard in the end, ' cos the SMM did su a good job of doing the Kevin Shields thing.
Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 10:38 pm
by Simon
stewart wrote:not seen reece round here for a while, could facebook message him if you like.
although i think the gliding trem playing on his jag is what makes the sound.
Yes, do this. I was just watching this video yesterday and thought I hadn't seen Reece about for a while. I'd be interested to know what the exact settings are... I'm fairly sure he's using a preset in the video. I think I tried using the settings he had in that video and they weren't that close to the sound he was replicating.
Let me know what he comes back with if you wouldn't mind!
Cheers!
Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 5:05 am
by paul_
You may have known this already as Reece mentions something about it in the vid, but he has the original version of the Dano Transparent Overdrive, which was found to be a copy of the Paul Cochrane TIMMY and discontinued early on. The current Danelectro CTO2 Transparent Overdrive, with a black label instead of a cream one, is not the same pedal. I don't think the difference would make/break this particular sound, though.
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 10:54 am
by gerrydaly
HI Paul_, yeah I actually manage to find the Danelectro CTO1 on Ebay, but it took a few weeks...
paul_ wrote:You may have known this already as Reece mentions something about it in the vid, but he has the original version of the Dano Transparent Overdrive, which was found to be a copy of the Paul Cochrane TIMMY and discontinued early on. The current Danelectro CTO2 Transparent Overdrive, with a black label instead of a cream one, is not the same pedal. I don't think the difference would make/break this particular sound, though.
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 12:30 pm
by gerrydaly
Markeeee, just followed your instructions and you were spot on- thanks a lot, sounds almost the same...thanks again.
Posted: Sat May 12, 2012 12:31 pm
by gerrydaly
Markeeee, just followed your instructions and you were spot on- thanks a lot, sounds almost the same...thanks again.
Posted: Tue May 15, 2012 12:06 pm
by markeeee
S'alright. I'm pretty sure all the detail is there in Reece's video anyway.
Keep tweaking and you'll nail it. There's a relationship between the delay time, the decay and the feedback. Well, I suppose that's obvious.
Anyway, point is you might find that you need to play with those to match the tempo at which you're strumming. Slower strumming patterns mean you could have a longer decay i.e. it takes longer for the delay repeats to move between their starting volume and their final volume. The delay time itself should always be really short, though. It should never get anywhere near traditional delay times.