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450 for CIJ Japanese Jag or 550 for classic player?

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:58 pm
by BillClay
Both candy apple red, but the Japanese has got the matching headstock which is an ultra turn on. On the other hand, I wouldn't have to upgrade pickups and bridge on the CP. Which has a bigger neck/ which would you buy/ why am I typing this while 90% asleep? fuck

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:02 pm
by mkt3000
I'd go Japanese Jag, since I'd be swapping out the pickups either way.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:14 pm
by gusman2x
Neck size will depend on age of the Japanese guitar. I believe, but may be wrong, around 98 they moved manufacture if the Made in Japan models (MIJ), and renamed them Crafted in Japan (CIJ). From what I gather, the MIJ models have skinnier necks, and the CIJ have thicker. I played a CP Jazzmaster the other week, and the neck wasn't too thick, but felt thicker than a AVRI.

If it was me, the Jap one all the way. Cheaper, matching headstock, and money left over for pups if you want.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:14 pm
by Thomas
Japanese by a country mile.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:31 pm
by aen
Classic player x 10000000 Because it WORKS right away. It also sounds like a guitar right away, instead of electric barbed wire in your eyes.
Well, I don't know about nek size on those. Seems pretty comparable.

Re: 450 for Japanese Jag or 550 for classic player?

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:59 pm
by weeping_moon
BillClay wrote:Both candy apple red, but the Japanese has got the matching headstock which is an ultra turn on. On the other hand, I wouldn't have to upgrade pickups and bridge on the CP. Which has a bigger neck/ which would you buy/ why am I typing this while 90% asleep? fuck
what kind of necks are these?

the pickups i wouldnt care about.
but i would pick the one with matching headstock!!!!!

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 5:02 pm
by stewart
one has a 7.25 radius (japanese), the other 9.5 (mexican), if that has a bearing.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 5:06 pm
by weeping_moon
stewart wrote:one has a 7.25 radius (japanese), the other 9.5 (mexican), if that has a bearing.
then 7.25 radius and the matching headstock.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 5:30 pm
by singlepup
MIJ. May not "work right away," but i like the feel of 'em more.

Def do a pup swap asap to avoid barbed wire in ocular cavities.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 5:40 pm
by BillClay
Unnnnggggghhhhhhh! keep the opinions coming dudes, I like hearing other people's thoughts and experiences.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 6:11 pm
by taylornutt
Japan for the 7.25" radius and matching headstock

Do you care about tremolo placement? Classic player will have the tremolo moved closer to the bridge and the Japan will have the traditional placement.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 6:36 pm
by BillClay
I'm not going to sweat the trem placement: if I get the Japanese I'm definitely going to get a mustang bridge for it. I've played a CP before and liked the feel and sound, I just don't want to miss out on the mij if it's a better guitar and I'm not really going to get a chance to play both and compare.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 6:44 pm
by othomas2
CP is better out of the box, but with a little TLC (pickup change / bridge) I think the Japanese is a much nicer instrument long term. In fact I think the Japanese make the best instruments out there IMO.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 6:56 pm
by taylornutt
I only brought up the trem placement because it is a deal breaker for a lot of people.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 7:00 pm
by BearBoy
I'd get the Japanese one for the vintage radius and matching headstock. You can swap bridges and pick ups fairly easily but it's not so easy to sort out a matching headstock...

Plus, it's cheaper so you would have extra cash for any upgrades you felt necessary (I'd play it first before deciding what, if anything, needs changing).

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 7:14 pm
by honeyiscool
I'd buy Japanese any day.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 7:26 pm
by corpusjonsey
Japanese > Mexican. Hands down.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 7:46 pm
by ellengtrgrl
I've had both (CP, and MIJ). It's going to come down to what feels best to you. Some players just do not gel with 7.25" radius necks. Me?, I had no problem with the necks on either the CP, the '90 MIJ I had (back in 1990), or my late and lamented '66 CIJ Reissue. But, I will agree that the pickups in my CP were much better than the pickups in either my 90 MIJ (which were kind of wimpy sounding, and horribly microphonic), or my CIJ, '66 Reissue (which sounded kind of shrill - at the time I sold it due to a money crunch, I was seriously looking into replacing the pickups).

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:17 pm
by BillClay
^
Which had a thicker neck? Hardware,bridge, and pickups I can change. Radius doesn't matter, I can handle 7-12, I just want something with a chunky neck.

Like I said, I'm not going to be able to compare the two in person which blows

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 8:49 pm
by Josh
my cp jag has a pretty chunky neck.