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1994 Epi Sheraton?

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 1:03 am
by death2yun
Somebody on cl wants to trade me one for my eastwood.
I've played the sheraton II, and thought the neck was too fat.
Does anyone have any opinions on the korean made sheraton's?

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 1:58 am
by Dillon
If it's made in 1994 it's still a Sheraton II, and not much different from the Chinese ones made today. I had a Korean one from 2003-ish. Fantastic guitar, but yes, somewhat chunky neck, at least compared to a typical Fender neck. Pickups are typical Epiphone stock...you'll probably want to change them, which isn't a terrible job if you keep the stock pots and splice into the stock wiring. But if you want to change pots it's a total pain. Anyway, the early ones especially are nicer, and typically valued $500 to 600 from what I've seen. If you're in the market for a 335-style and don't mind gold hardware, I say go for it :)

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 2:34 am
by death2yun
Dillon wrote:If it's made in 1994 it's still a Sheraton II, and not much different from the Chinese ones made today. I had a Korean one from 2003-ish. Fantastic guitar, but yes, somewhat chunky neck, at least compared to a typical Fender neck. Pickups are typical Epiphone stock...you'll probably want to change them, which isn't a terrible job if you keep the stock pots and splice into the stock wiring. But if you want to change pots it's a total pain. Anyway, the early ones especially are nicer, and typically valued $500 to 600 from what I've seen. If you're in the market for a 335-style and don't mind gold hardware, I say go for it :)
S4053504 is the serial number. I looked it up and it said it was made at the samick factory in korea. The guy said it was a Sheraton, not a II?
He said it's just like this one http://imageevent.com/nicksguitars/epip ... =4&s=0&z=2

I like the sound of them, but idk if that's a fair trade for an Eastwood Map Guitar?

Posted: Sun May 20, 2012 3:31 am
by Nick
This is going to come off as very ranty and maybe not too helpful, but here's the funny thing about Eastwood. For a company that started out making cheapo Teisco copies and selling them for a few hundred bucks new, they seem to have learned awfully quick that by actually buying old defunct brand names of rarities they can get away with charging three times as much as they used to as long as the product stays cheaper than a vintage example. When Eastwoods first came out they felt, played, and sounded like Epiphone quality to me, which was cool considering they were cheaper and were using more oddball designs. Every newer model Eastwood I've played feels, plays, and sounds just like the old ones and the only justification for these $800 stickers that I can see is that they have a "proper" brand name on the headstock now and they're still cheaper than paying $2000 for a minty vintage example (that admittedly probably has way more quirks and distress than a new Eastwood).

So great, you've decided to buy a cool looking guitar whose value was set by the manufacturer whose only basis for pricing are 50 year old vintage examples and not competitive with other guitars offered by companies built with similar specs. So what does that do for resale? A quick eBay search pulls a ton of active listings, all over $700, but a look at completed listings shows that none of them sold. A quick look at eBay completed listings for an Epiphone Sheraton II shows that for the most part they have an actual resale value of between $400 and $500, maybe a bit higher or lower depending on year, condition, modifications, etc. That value is likely to stick for as long as you own the guitar.


So in my humble opinion, right now anyway, is that your guitar for a Sheraton II is more or less an even trade. I suppose you could always ask for $50 or $100 in addition to the Epi if you feel like you're not getting a fair deal. Of course it comes down to which guitar do you like more and if you're not getting along with the fat Epi neck now it's likely you never will.

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 9:18 am
by BillClay
get that fat neck, learn to love it. You need that shit.

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:05 am
by death2yun
BillClay wrote:get that fat neck, learn to love it. You need that shit.
why do I need it?

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 11:53 am
by JJLipton
death2yun wrote:
BillClay wrote:get that fat neck, learn to love it. You need that shit.
why do I need it?
Agreed. Fat neck = PHAT TONEZ

Posted: Mon May 21, 2012 10:29 pm
by paul_
I have tiny girlhands and find fat necks more comfortable than really skinny ones. As long as they're not too wide/narrow from E-to-E it's not a problem what thickness they are though.

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 3:21 am
by Nick
I find fat and thin necks inspire me to play differently. I like changing off now and then, but overall find fat necks more comfortable for long term playing, just more to hold onto, less cramps, I don't even have the biggest hands.

Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 7:03 am
by BillClay
get them fatty boom-blatty neck tonez